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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-25 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2335 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This is going to sound really poor-me, but here goes: I started smoking when I was in my early twenties, because I was horrifically end of the line bulimic. I don't have the most supportive family, and along with all that dysfunction I inherited an extremely addictive personality. Binging and purging was an addiction that I couldn't break. I tried and failed. And tried and failed. I have permanent teeth damage, scars along my mouth from where my lips split, chronic acid reflux issues. But I'm still alive because smoking cigarettes is the ONLY thing that served as substitute.
Smoking is bad. Smoking is really really bad, and it will kill you. But bulimia was going to kill me immediately. Do I want to quit? Absolutely. But there are few things shittier than the vilification of smoking, and the idiots/assholes who smoke. I know some people can quit cold turkey, but for those of us who REALLY REALLY can't, even with the patch, and therapy, and nicotine gum, and electronic cigarettes- it's hard to hear: 'well, you shouldn't have been so stupid to start'
Maybe so! Too late. Do you get that? My dad's entire side of the family is rife with hard drug use and alcoholism. I'd take smoking over that, wouldn't you? And I think every one of you would take smoking over your esophagus burning out.

I know some people picked it up because they wanted to be cool. Or, they wanted to lose weight. Or just... because. But even they don't deserve to be condemned and shit on by people who cannot abide a habit that is largely prohibited in public. If someone is blowing smoke in your asthmatic sister's face, they're a dick first, and a smoker second.

Not everyone who ever took it up is the scum of society. And most of them want to quit. So lay off until they can.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a non-stupid reason to start. But if you are smoking in a smoke-free area, I will still be pissed off at you.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

the thing is that smoking in a smoke-free area isn't a reason to get mad at smokers and go on rants about how evil smoking is. it's a reason to get mad at assholes, for being assholes. it's weird to go on rants about how smoking is evil and no one should do it on the basis of your dislike for a behavior that is not "smoking"

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough.

I think my rant didn't actually imply "asshole" until the last bit, with the smoking in smoke-free areas and JUDGING YOU. The first part was about assuming people are smokers on the basis of their writing characters as smokers, which is apparently incorrect, to my surprise. (I'm frankly amazed that people who do smoke think smoking is sexy. File that under YKINMK, I suppose.) The second part was assuming people were stupid to start, which I already knew was unfair.

Smoking is bad because it slowly and painfully kills you, and slowly and painfully kills everyone around you. The amount it enrages me isn't actually relevant.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
People have the right to slowly and painfully kill themselves, whether it's with cigarettes or alcohol or unhealthy food or whatever. Killing people around themselves is less cool, which is why I don't judge smokers, but definitely judge parents who smoke around their children etc.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Killing people around themselves is not cool at all.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
No. I'm sorry about your situation. Really. However. Smoking pollutes the air, sinks into clothing and furniture (it really stinks; you can't fool me by saying you don't smoke and then reek of it), and it kills you and people who don't smoke due to the effects of secondhand smoke. It brings on asthma attacks, etc. There are no pros to smoking. Ever. And yes, it was a factor in my father's death (smoking and heavy alcohol use = throat cancer in his case); my uncle's death (he smoked until the day he died); and the death of a coworker that I actually liked due to exposure to secondhand smoke (he never smoked or drank, but he wanted to be a singer and sang in bars, etc.).

So for everyone who smokes: fuck you and your smoking. You're beyond selfish in giving people around you and yourself cancer and ignoring the emotional impact of it on your loved ones.

Uh no

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry for your experience, but...excuse you you're being a dick right now.

Do you like, completely lack the ability to see things from other people's points of view? I have half the empathy I should have for a woman my age and I still can see that you're being a jerk.

TW: Suicide

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
I started smoking after my mother died. I can't even remember how or when, that entire year of my life is blanked out of my mind. Mildly similar mindset followed, I recall desperately wanting to die so... at some point figured smoking was better than outright suicide.

Tried to quit multiple times, even with patches and gums and therapy. Whatever. End result is being a wreck by a month or two in and starting all over again. The withdrawal depression (?) that follows attempts to quit usually bring about the suicidal thoughts in full force, and I'd rather light up than feel that way.

Anyway, I'm with you. Smoking isn't that cut and dry. The smokers I know also keep away from nonsmokers, do it outdoors, ect. And sure as shit wouldn't go creeping near folks with respiratory issues.

Re: TW: Suicide

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

*hugs*