[ SECRET POST #2342 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2342 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. I don't ship it personally nor do I really think that they're gay, but I do think this is one of the times when it's more justifiable to look at the text and read the characters as being gay. I don't think it's that much of a stretch, even though I don't think it's true myself. There's a lot in terms of their closeness and their relationship and the kind of bond they have that makes it easy to interpret it in that way. It's not an insane thing to think.

More importantly, though: the fact that they suspected each other of being traitors, or the fact that Sirius "didn't give that much of a shit about Remus' feelings", is in no way evidence that they weren't gay. People are fucking complicated and both of those things are totally compatible with a sexual or even a romantic relationship. The world is a fucking complicated place.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. The fact that such a relationship would be flawed or even deeply flawed isn't actually evidence against it.

[(Anonymous)]

They could've also been bi or pan, but I agree with you on the rest.

[(Anonymous)]

OP didn't use the "not gay" argument, though -- OP didn't mention sexuality at all, just presented an argument that they didn't even act like super-close friends.

I agree that said relationship complications don't rule it out, but it wasn't how people were writing the ship when I was still reading in the fandom.

[iggy]

Well uh. Remus isn't gay. He fell in love with and married a woman. Bi or pan? Maybe. But not gay.

[(Anonymous)]

Right. Because no gay man ever did that.

[iggy]

Lol.

[(Anonymous)]

No, a gay man has never fallen in love with and married a woman. Straight and bi men, yes.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you serious? Of course gay men have done this. Samuel R. Delany's one real life example that leaps to mind.

[(Anonymous)]

I know a gay man IRL who did this, the other well known example in Britain would be Tom Robinson, who had a hit with "Sing if you're glad to be gay". Then a few years later met and fell in love with a woman, married and had kids.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course I'm seriously. They mislabeled themselves and were bi all along.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean of course I'm serious.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to get terribly off topic here, but didn't the actor who plays Remus and the director of... the third one maybe?... think Remus was gay? Like, directed the actor to play him as such?

I might be misremembering something but I don't think so.

[(Anonymous)]

Then maybe we're both misremembering the same thing. Vaguely recall reading that Thewlis said *something* about Sirius and Remus' relationship in the third film, though whether he or the director of PoA genuinely believed Remus was gay is another matter.

[(Anonymous)]

The director called him a gay uncle.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I ship Remus / Tonks like fuck. I am an avowed Remus/Tonks shipper. So it's not like I'm forgetting about that. That said, you're probably right, Remus would be bi or pan and not gay. I'm more just trying to point out that the interpretation under which Remus is into dudes is a valid one reading from the text. I probably should have been more clear. You're right.