[ SECRET POST #2371 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2371 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Scandal in Belgravia is my favorite Sherlock Holmes episode, and I'll always be ashamed to admit it because in my fandom circles that equates complete misogyny from my part, more so since I'm a gay guy thus a complete "woman hater".

But the thing is, I love Irene Adler,because she is the only character in Sherlock I have identified with, and not in the sexual liberalism part (I'm prudish and I like it so) but in how she played the game. I just found out so amazing to see a normally smart human going toe to toe with geniuses, even when she had to outsource the planning, maybe that's part of the appeal for me. I can relate to that, I'm not the smartest; so the idea of "playing your hand" so well is almost inspirational, sort of my own version of "you can do anything you want and be anyone you want to be"

I would have liked to see her succed in her plans, or at least get out of doge on her own, but part of me aprecciates the fallibility of the character. It's more real and relatable than Sherlock's 100% sucess rate. I don't relate to him at all.

And the idea of falling for someone despiste your orientation. That's always been something very intriguing to me. Could I fall in love with a woman?

Of course, SiB is not the best episode, but it's my favorite for these reasons. I admire Irene Adler, and she is the only character in Sherlock I feel a connection with.

[(Anonymous)]

See, thing is, I could actually get that. I could see how someone would love this version of Irene on her own merits.

My problems with the episode come firstly how the narrative treated the character of Irene in relation to the other characters (I'm never getting over the fact that she was made to lose so that superhuman Sherlock could keep his win rate), and secondly from this version of Irene in relation to the original version (again, it's the part where she loses that gets me, when there exists a version where she wins).

I could understand loving this Irene. What I don't love is how she was used. Does that make sense?

[(Anonymous)]

No one really won that one. It was a score draw. She fucked over UK intelligence big time, and she left a code for Sherlock specifically to break. She auditioned him and he passed is about as good as you can say.

[asecretchord]

I love it, too. It's far and away my favourite--for loads of reasons, most of which you've alluded to.

Rock on, anon. There are more of us than you'd think.

[ariakas]

I would have liked to see her succed in her plans, or at least get out of doge on her own

But that's you and 99.9% of the detractors, anon. If they'd done that it would've been true to the canon and you wouldn't've seen hardly any of the outcry.

[fenm]

Yes, because Irene losing was the ONLY issue anyone had with that episode.

FYI, given the changes to the character, I'm GLAD she lost---and I still hate the episode.

[ariakas]

I don't know man her losing is what I've seen most people complain about. It's only on LJ/DW/Tumblr that I've seen fans get into the problematic issues behind the representation of her sexuality, etc.

[fenm]

In my defense, those are pretty much the only places I talk about Sherlock, so, yeah, I do see those issues brought up a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

And the idea of falling for someone despiste your orientation.

Try being a lesbian, and you will quickly discover that this is no longer an "intruguing" idea, but something that every second dude thinks is possible for you with the right cock man.

Fuck that shit, Moffat.

[(Anonymous)]

As a lesbian, I agree with you, but I also agree with him. To me sexuality is fluid and I don't think anyone is 100% anything. I wasn't offended for the reasons many were, I understand the criticism but can't I just agree that is problematic/potentially problematic and still enjoy it? I just loved the exchange between her and Watson ("I'm not gay"/"well I am"). I know she said she was gay but I identify as gay but am reluctant to use that label because I find a lot of male celebrities attractive *shrugs* so I found her frank confession refreshing.

I get that as a woman and a lesbian I am supposed to be offended by this episode/treatment of her character but I can't help agreeing with pretty much everything in the comment you replied to. I loved her.