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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-11 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2413 ]


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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-08-11 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Until they give him a real name, fans can call him whatever they want. And if Genim is a fanon then that is fine. Though I would like to know how Genim came about.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe it's the name written on the file on coache's desk that the Sherriff points at?
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[personal profile] queerwolf 2013-08-11 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well when the creator of the show comes out and says that's not his name, it's kind of obnoxious to still keep using it.

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This is where it came from

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120915053939/teenwolf/fr/images/7/79/Stiles_genim_stilinski.jpg

That's Sheriff Stilinski's hand pointing to the name on his son's file while in a parent-teacher conference with Finstock.

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[personal profile] klutzygirl 2013-08-11 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, Genim drives me up the fucking wall! The name isn't pronounceable from what we've heard on the show. Genim is easy to pronounce!

I'm going to have a hard time accepting that Papa Stilinski's first name isn't John when the time comes, though.
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[personal profile] queerwolf 2013-08-11 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. Annoys me that some authors continue to use it. Jeff Davis has even said it's a Polish name. Just look one up online that's impossible to pronounce and there you go!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait so his first name isn't Stiles? It's just a nickname based on his last name then? (Has no idea about anything tw related)
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[personal profile] queerwolf 2013-08-11 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
yep. And fans having been chomping at the bit to find out his real first name for 2 and 1/2 seasons now.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, Zdzisław or Świętopełk are super easy to pronounce. But then I am Polish :D

Also, you are unlikely to meet a Zdzisław under the age of 40, not a cool name anymore, and Świętopełk was last in vogue sometime in the Middle Ages. As in no one ever is called that name. And if they are their parents suck terribly.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooh can you give some common names you know of?

I saw a fic once that used Przemysław, and I liked that due to the meaning but it seems really easily pronounceable.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
...how the fuck did they decide on that name? Is it even a name?

/reason one million why I never want to be in Teen Wolf

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
See the above comment for the answer to your question: http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/855926.html?thread=676078454#cmt676078454

At this point, I think the onus is on Jeff Davis to either 1) canonically (aka, on the show itself, not in an interview or on Twitter or wherever) reveal Stiles's actual first name and/or 2) canonically provide an explanation for why Finstock's folder calls him "Genim Stilinski."

This isn't an example of out-of-control fanon; it's an example of bad editing and/or prop design that the show creator doesn't want to bother correcting.

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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-08-11 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It is, in fact, a name.

A Kurdish girl's name, not a Polish boy's name. But a name, nonetheless.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-08-11 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I know it's not his name and I wish people would be more varied but I honestly can't bring myself to care that people use that name.

...it just really doesn't matter.

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-08-11 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is various screen-captures of text from the internet over a screen capture of Stiles Stilinski from the TV show "Teen Wolf". Stiles is a young man with light skin and short dark hair. He is behind the wheel of a vehicle, covering his forehead with the back of his left hand exasperatedly. The bits of text say: "Gemin?" "Genim "Stiles" Stilinski (c) Teen Wolf" "Derek Hale/Genim (Stiles) Stilinski" "Genim Stiles' real name" and also a twitter post from someone called "Jeff Davis" under the username "JeffDavis75" saying "[cropped text]ndercalls Not his real name."]

I hate that fandom has decided this is Stiles' first name. Jeff Davis even said it wasn't! Why not go for something actually difficult to say or spell, like ZDZISLAW, IARFHLAIH, MAELEACHLAINN, ŚWIĘTOPEŁK.

[personal profile] ibroketuesday 2013-08-11 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Genim is a cute name, but 1) the name on the folder wasn't Genim Stilinski, it was [something]ienim Stilinski; and 2) his name is supposed to be completely horrific and unpronounceable, based on Coach's fumbling attempts to make any kind of sense of it as well. Even ignoring Word of God that Genim is wrong and the name is Polish, Genim just isn't whacked-out and difficult enough to qualify based on the parameters established in canon.

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elaminator: (Teen Wolf: Stilinski's being angsty)

[personal profile] elaminator 2013-08-11 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed, it doesn't seem unusual or difficult enough.

That said I've never seen Genim used for him. In the fic I've read people generally don't mention his first name at all unless it's to say how unusual or absurdly difficult to pronounce it is, but rarely is his actual name given. BUT I'm new to the fandom so I've probably just not run across it yet. I prefer Stiles because it's what the show uses and I doubt I'll never think of him as anything but Stiles.

Still, I hope at some point the show tells us his name, and that it's something that stumps people.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It bothers me too. At first it was fine, but now I just roll my eyes whenever I see it and depending on how much the fic has grabbed me by that point, sometimes I just back-arrow. Same with John for the Sheriff, to be honest, though that's not as objectionable.

I feel that (thankfully) people are moving away from using Genim, although alas we can't really do anything about all the fic with it that already exists.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Install Word Filter.
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[personal profile] al28894 2013-08-11 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but the first thought that I had reading this secret was "Stiles is Polish!?".

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, JD confirmed it! But you might have garnered that from the thread by now...

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
not even gonna try with the teen wolf fandom.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-08-12 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
My guess is "Marian." But it might just be because I love John Wayne.