[ SECRET POST #2414 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2414 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.
[Akumu-chan / My Little Nightmare]


__________________________________________________



03.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation/Deanna Troi]


__________________________________________________



04.
[The Borgias]


__________________________________________________



05.
[Kaiba Seto and Jounouchi Katsuya from Yu-gi-oh!]


__________________________________________________



06.
[Spring Breakers]


__________________________________________________



07.
[Murder Rooms]


__________________________________________________



08.
[Twin Peaks]


__________________________________________________



09.
[Mass Effect]


__________________________________________________



10.
[Despicable Me 2]


__________________________________________________



11.
[Ice Age]


__________________________________________________



12.
[Arrested Development]


__________________________________________________



13.
[Super Junior]


__________________________________________________



14.
[Halloween]


__________________________________________________









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 064 secrets from Secret Submission Post #345.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The ending ruined things for me, but not the Shepard *pairings* necessarily. All of the choices bother me in some way - and as much as I don't like the Destroy also kills off EDI and the geth, I also wish that, say, with a high EMS score you could save them. After all, with high EMS the mass relays are apparently 'damaged' and not totally destroyed. Besides, AI can be rebuilt over time.

(I still hate Synthesis more, because forcing that change on every being in the galaxy? Ugh no thanks.)

[cbrachyrhynchos]

It seems to be the Bioware thing these days to push you into a literary trolly problem, even if it doesn't make any sense.

[(Anonymous)]

Refusing in the EC is the worst. It's literally BioWare's 'fuck you' to anyone who didn't like the three endings.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I'm slightly more offended by Act 3 of DA2 myself, since it involves being manipulated by Bioware via Anders (who I might rename Hugo in light of recent events) into doing something utterly stupid, a coerced decision as to which flavor of puppy-kicking you're going to support first, concluding with kicking both puppies, and a lecture on puppy kicking.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't played DA2 but after Mass Effect 3 nothing surprises me anymore. :(

[chardmonster]

Huh, seriously? I thought the refusal was great. Your efforts help future people survive. You got an entire ending just for people who really, especially hated the ending, with entirely new content.

How is refusal a fuck you? If anything it's a bonus.

[darkmanifest]

I imagine it feels like a fuck you because you didn't just play invest countless hours into three games just for the galaxy you came to care about to be destroyed and some nebulous future generation of species you know nothing about to be victorious, hopefully, at some point. Basically, it was like "you'll save the galaxy our way or you won't save it at all". And I admit I fail to understand why they were so adamant about that.

[(Anonymous)]

What bothered me about it is that in the end, those future people use the Crucible. They don't hunt the Reapers down in dark space, they don't spend their cycle planning and find some way to - IDK, nuke any Reaper tech that passes through the relays, they don't really do anything innovative with the information that was left behind. They just do the same thing Shepard refused to do, which makes the entire thing seem fairly pointless. It doesn't feel like a fuck you because the current cast of characters loses, it feels like a fuck you because the outcome is ultimately the same as it would've been if you picked one of the original flavors.

[saku]

the first time i played, i shot at the starchild just as a joke, and i fucked my entire game up. would not recommend.

[insanenoodlyguy]

THat's now how you spell best.

[miarrow]

Synthesis is the creepiest ending to me. It's supposed to be the best? I... that's forcing a change throughout the galaxy without anyone consent it's horrifying. (Not to mention the logistics of such a feat.)

[elaminator]

I'm pretty sure Synthesis is supposed to be the best ending since it takes the most EMS to achieve. Everything about it creeps me out. I DO want EDI and the Geth to live, but none of the ending were satisfactory imo. I don't care how unrealistic it would've been, I think EDI and the Geth surviving the destroy ending should've been possible.

Still, I've made my peace with it. Mostly.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 to all of the above. WHY Synthesis requires the most EMS, I have no idea. I'll take Control over that any day, even if that had its own creep factor. We can't win with any of these endings, sadly.

[elaminator]

We can't win with any of these endings, sadly.

Pretty much. They all have their downfalls, which doesn't necessarily HAVE to be a bad thing; not all endings need to be perfect. Still...the endings will always be a clusterfuck of wrong to me.

[miarrow]

I still think Indoctrination theory would have been the greatest, so I'm really upset they didn't go that route. Like I was fine with Shepard having to go out in a heroic way (though I agree with some of the arguments made for letting him/her live), but wiping out the synthetic life and pretty much everyone... agh.

I'm still not over some of the stuff during the game. Like it made it impossible to really think of doing Renegade choices because they went from pragmatic humanist to cutthroat idiot.

[elaminator]

The Indoctrination theory makes more sense to me than anything we got. (And is way more pleasant.) And imo Shepard should ALWAYS have a chance of survival if not for any other reason than BioWare games are supposed to be about choice. (Granted we did get choices, they were just crap ones.) All the endings are pretty damn harrowing, but either BioWare wanted it that way or didn't see the underlying issues with them.

[(Anonymous)]

I just imagine the Marauder Shields comic is the real ending now and it makes me passably happy.

[diet_poison]

I guess Synthesis was supposed to be like, a big grand statement about the ideal pinnacle of life - it was supposed to be the ultimate end. idk.

I agree with you 110% about an alternate Destroy. I didn't feel any great desire to spare the Reapers. If it had *just* destroyed Reapers without killing all those other people (which...it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do) it would have been amazing.

[elaminator]

I guess Synthesis was supposed to be like, a big grand statement about the ideal pinnacle of life - it was supposed to be the ultimate end.

Yea, I think that's what they were going for. The message didn't really reach me though...it just ended up feeling disturbing and horror movie esc. Different strokes and all that but it didn't work for me.

I didn't feel any great desire to spare the Reapers.

Me either, what with the whole 'we're killing you so you won't kill yourselves' shit. (Like seriously?) And we're supposed to trust that Shepard will have the ~strength of will~ (or whatever, idek) to control them indefinitely or inherently change every living being in the galaxy instead of destroying them? Whaaaaaaat?

[diet_poison]

It's like someone said above with puppy-kicking in DA2 (I haven't played DA2, but it's kind of the same thing - asking what kind of bread you want on your shit sandwich). Control is creepy because...well, you're mind-controlling hundreds of things. Destroy is horrible because it's basically genocide.

You can't win. Synthesis was the best ending, even if it wasn't ideal, in my opinion. I can see why it creeps some people out, though.

[miarrow]

I thought Control you're controlling the reapers? I mean, still frightening (tbh they're all kind of terrible).

I actually like the eff-you ending, because it ties back to the beacon Liara made, even though you know it wipes out the galaxy.

[diet_poison]

Yes, that is Control. It creeps me out more than Synthesis. To each their own, I guess.

I think the Fuck You ending was good in its own way - very tragic and emotional, with that beacon of hope at the end - but definitely not as good as the others, because it feels like a cop-out. It feels like Shepard was unable to make a hard decision and as a result everybody dies instead of just a few people. And when you think about it? in the next cycle, someone's just going to be faced with the same set of choices. It's just prolonging the inevitable.

[(Anonymous)]

Genocide of artificial intelligence? I'd take that over essentially forcing everything organic and non-organic into becoming "one."

"Hey Banshee, you remember being an Asari right? How many folks you kill as a Banshee? Fun tims yeah? Ah the good ol' days of war!" or "Hey Husk! 'sup man! Remember how you got turned into a husk and then killed that farmer and his family? What was that like?" or "Hey buddy Quarian, you never did like Geth unless it died, so how do you like sharing more than just your existence with it/them?"

I chose Synthesis the first time through because of my affection for Legion, but on every subsequent play through, it's always Destroy because in the end, an AI is merely a tool to be used. It's easier to recreate such a tool than it is to explain to future generations why The Shepard chose to become a Reaper or make everyone half-n-half.

But you, and pretty much everyone else, are right. You can't win in that situation.

[diet_poison]

Yes, genocide. Artificial intelligence = still living and sapient. And I think it would be hard to explain to future generations why Shepard chose to commit such genocide when it wasn't necessary.

I'm not sure where the whole banshees-and-husks thing came in, unless I'm forgetting something from canon (entirely possible). I just sort of assumed they all died...

[saku]

yeah i think it's weird that synthesis requires the highest ems - like i get why, but at the same time i see it as a neutral ending rather than the best one, despite the most amount of effort going into "unlocking" it. throughout the rest of the trilogy, the neutralish decision were always available, and the reputation-related ones were sometimes unavailable, so it seems a little backwards.