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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-31 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2433 ]


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I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The original.

http://findchaos.tumblr.com/post/59833164486/chaoslife-societys-new-rules-according-to-the

The response.

http://poesister.tumblr.com/post/59898953174/armokgodofbud-quality-straw


I just... why would you defend the way people act on the internet. Why.

Also, you're kind of proving the original's point.
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Re: I just can't get over this.

[personal profile] aubry 2013-08-31 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
There are two kinds of people nodding along to that comic. One is a group of people who are pretty well informed on progressive arguments and ideas and are fed up of bullies misusing legitimate arguments to stoke their own outrage spree.

The other are bullies themselves who believe that they are being oppressed because they aren't "allowed" to call sluts sluts anymore etc. To them that cartoon is a hilarious satire of that bitch who ruined their whole night by not laughing when they told the hillarious gangbanger joke. They too enjoy an entirely misplaced sense of outrage.

*Shrug* It's where we're at. As long as we're all reacting in memes, stock rants, and copypasta and skipping the actual conversation part, it's an impasse.

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Agreed.

I think the important thing is, don't be a bully - and there's an end on't.
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

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[personal profile] scrubber 2013-08-31 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that that is an issue whenever you make fun of certain arguments/groups, but in this particular case the first seemed to be going after such low-hanging fruit intelligence-wise that I figured it was too hard to disagree with? I was a fool.

Like in the first panel. The demonstration of the thinking "You vastly prefer A to B? Well then you hate B. AND ME TOO. >:C" This is simpleton asshole logic and it affects people on all sides in arguments. If you're (for example) liberal, then you think of the conservatives that annoy you, and vice versa. I see this one as universal as making fun of "dumb people" is.

I do see that the later panels get more specific and single out certain trends, but I thought overall it was still kind of tame. The super butthurt response took me totally by surprise.
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[personal profile] othellia 2013-08-31 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
And this is why I wish tumblr facilitated actual conversations more...

I mean, not that LJ/DW/[insert forum/thread based board here] don't have their share of stock "look how cool I am by dismissing my opponent's argument" reactions, but at least the threads have a central location, people can jump in and have their comments seen regardless of how many people follow them, and when it's over and done with it's actually OVER AND DONE WITH.

It's actually one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen. Post A will show up on my dash, with its own set of 5+ comments, likes, etc, and it's cool. Then several months later Post A will show up on my dash again, only this time diverging from comment 2 or 3 into its own separate beast, and sometimes I agreed with the original but not this newcomer, but they both have my "like" since the likes carry over and it's a mess.

I understood why fandom moved there since pretty pictures and gifs and all that, but I used to wonder why the SJW crowd made it their home since it really is not a good platform for conversation based movements. Then realized they don't want conversations, just echo chambers.
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

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[personal profile] scrubber 2013-08-31 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Weeeeell, Social Justice is a fandom now. That's all there is to that.

I mirror ever sentiment in this post. Though I am on Tumblr a lot, so I guess I'm just feeding the beast.

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starphotographs: ...I'm not that bad, though. And I don't even light things on fire! Well, not regularly... (Izaya (devious))

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[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-08-31 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The original was funny!

The response was... Funny for a different reason.

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm confused by both sides

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't think either comic was really very good.

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I think I get the point and I guess I kinda nod at some of it but then it moves into a tilted head as it keeps going and I'm...just baffled.

...so many people are angry on my dashboard for both sides though. It's like badminton.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
sa
finally read through that whole disclaimer and eek. That's a load of crap

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The first is a comic form of "These are things I've discerned are taboo on the internet because somebody somewhere might be offended, regardless of how innocent/innocuous/inoffensive said thing is."

The second is a response from somebody who didn't get the joke and assumed the original creator was a) butthurt about being called out on something they said that was actually offensive, and/or b) blowing things way out of proportion.

Whether you actually find either funny is a matter of personal taste, but considering the disclaimer at the bottom of the original, it's pretty clear that the responder is completely oblivious to what the original is actually mocking.

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-01 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I know you explained it all, so I'm quite a bit slow today, as I still don't quite get the original comic (falling flat with me, but I guess it's just generic hyperbole about SJW's?) and I was completely lost with the altered ones (?????) and I am very very confused by it all around. I think I've missed something :( or I need sleep...or coffee

I think the disclaimer is...trying too hard to be funny but I don't get it. It's more of the joke? But I'm suffering a huge case of "I don't get it" D: D: D: *beats head*
Maybe if I go have a break and come back

/faaail anon

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why I like that FS is pretty balanced on those issues.
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

Re: I just can't get over this.

[personal profile] scrubber 2013-08-31 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I never thought there would be a day. Were you here for the old FS days of yore?

The worst straw liberals you can imagine, except totally legit.

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
lol Oh lord, Paperclipchains. Everyone is a racist! Everyone is sexist! Everyone is transphobic!

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Most, but not all.

There are certain innocuous things you can say here that will start a goddamn shitstorm.

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Soap holders are serious business OK

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[personal profile] scrubber 2013-08-31 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still in awe that that many people care about Naruto and Bleach.

I know that's probably not what you meant but. Those threads always EXPLODE.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The wank about the sled dog fandom is probably one of the most glorious I've ever seen here.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Cinderella's dress is blue.

I'LL KILL YOU

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Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-01 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Clocks, man! Goddamn!

Re: I just can't get over this.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-01 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I am not really giving a shit but here's a third one I think?
http://carryonmywaywardpug.tumblr.com/post/59914670547/armokgodofbud-quality-straw

I'm still so lost haha both sides are sucking and not sure why that one comic artist is grafted in and I am so lost.
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Oh I can help you there.

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-09-01 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
TOM PRESTON

Tom is horrendously guilty of straw man comics where it's his self insert vs the stupid, horrible world.



his art, while not horrible, has had some legitimatly skilled and helpful people try to give him pointers, only to have him respond to constructive critisicm in the worst way.

Basically, he's a lulzcow for folks in my branch of the internet (specifically the /co/ board of 4chan). Also, we found a shitload of his old inflation/snuff fetish art for extra lulz.

Re: Oh I can help you there.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-01 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
...I....I want to punch that man in the face. That comic hurts me, right in the chest

-ayrt