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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-06 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2439 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2439 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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"But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I've noticed an odd trend lately. There are now people out there, in the wilds of the internet, who use what are ostensibly their real names and set what are ostensibly pictures of themselves as their avatars. Then, in the course of arguing with others, they randomly toss in, "at least I'm using my real name, unlike you; YOU have to hide behind a fake moniker!"

This is so bizarre to me. I mean, I grew up on the notion that you never reveal who you really are on the internet, because if you piss off (or attract) the wrong person, he or she will find you. On top of that, anything you say or do will stick with you for years and potentially land you in trouble. Hell, a guy who worked for my company was recently canned for things that he'd said on the internet under his real name. So, the fact that it suddenly seems to be a "thing" to try and shame people for operating under handles baffles me. These people are either intensely naive or they get off on trying to bait others into revealing too much about themselves.

Has anyone else run across this? Whether you have or not, what are you thoughts?
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-09-07 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, they can just piss off. My real name is pretty rare and I do not want every looney on tumbler or wherever tracking me down because I hurt their feels.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've seen these people.

And these are the same people who get about upset about the "invasion of privacy" by the NSA. NSA didn't have to invade anything. You laid out your entire life all over the place for all 6+ billion humans to see.

The only time I can see using your real name is if you are an artist or an author and you want to get your name out there. You are trying build a brand. But for everyone else?

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Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

[personal profile] souljelly 2013-09-07 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't come across this fortunately, but uh, wow. Very few people I know from the internet know my real name/face and I intend to keep it that way for the reasons you stated. It doesn't invalidate my points or opinions in the slightest.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
What the heck? I don't want my fandom smut tied to my real name. What about the future where I'm trying to get a good job and my employer's look for me on the internet. Or people I associate with who would recognize my face. I see people do this and I think "Are you stupid or something? This could come back to get you."

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I use a pseudonym because I don't want some crazy batshit person deciding they hate my views on X, so they're going to hunt down my RL everything and harass my job/family etc etc.

So I would call it some professional sensibility to keep things separate. Just because they're stupid enough to think using a RL name makes their sides more "real" doesn't mean we all will

i.e. I did argue with someone online recently and they were using their real name, with their company listed on their tumblr and I didn't point it out, but all I could think was "when people google your name or company, they're going to see our giant argument (including their several combo racist+ignorance comments) and may choose a different company wtf"

So yeah, I think using your real name is stupid - unless it's like your political twitter or professional tumblr - go pseudonyms!

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't it recently happen here? All it got the sjw troll that decided to stand by her name was mockery.

Honestly I don't see why people think it makes them look brave. I don't care to stand for every word in every random argument I get in the internet, specially not to some random stranger who holds no weight in my life.
nightscale: Starbolt (Spn demon)

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

[personal profile] nightscale 2013-09-07 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
My facebook doesn't even have my real name attached to it because I do not want people that I do not like finding me on the internet(it happened with myspace, lesson learned straight away with that), and my fandom stuff is most definitively kept separate from my rl, my friends do not need to know the weird shit that I like to look up on the internet.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
That's stupid.

Those people are stupid.
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Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

[personal profile] shortysc22 2013-09-07 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the same way, hiding behind my username. I understand those who want to go anon here, but I feel I don't give out much about me with my username.

I try and keep things hidden because I like my privacy. I don't get people who want to share everything.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thank people like Mark and Randi Zuckerberg, who think the Internet must be tamed and the only way to do it is to stamp out online anonymity. I say they can have my real personal information when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Those people are dumb. (Or quite possibly not using their actual real name, which is interesting, and also dumb.)

What I like about anonymous discussions on the internet is that the interaction is stripped of the filters and conventions we apply to conversations with people we know. You can't attach a reputation to a faceless comment, you have to judge the content on its own merit. Also, people tend to say more of what they really feel. Just look at this comm, it's powered by anonymity and its ability to let people say things that they feel even pseudonyms restrict them from giving voice to.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
And even then, a lot of sites I've been to in the past year or so have asked me to comment ONLY with my twitter, Facebook or google plus account... and it sucks because of everything you just said.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
da

Yeah you write that comment, click 'guest' and it still tries to make me log in with facebook or something.
No, no I don't want my opinions of whatever spamming my facebook or for random strangers to easily see it. Let me make my comment and wander off!
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Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-09-07 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
You can't attach a reputation to a faceless comment, you have to judge the content on its own merit.

You appear to think most anonymous discussions contain merit.

Check the comment section to your average news article. The demand that you use twitter or facebook is probably the only thing keeping bigotry down.

Just look at this comm

Yeah, seriously. JUST LOOK AT THIS COMM SOMETIMES. We have people saying women can't rape men, we've had some pretty odd transphobia, we have weird beefs over fiction. Meanwhile the people here with names tend to be at least marginally nicer. Facelessness does not make people better. Interaction stripped of filters gets more brutal. I'm worried you're in a bubble of nice woobies with positive blogs. Things powered by complete anonymity tend to be shit.
Edited 2013-09-07 04:31 (UTC)

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
da

"You appear to think most anonymous discussions contain merit. "

wow rude.
Maybe anons don't want to hold discussions with you because you're always so aggressive about the lack of usernames. Seems to me it's about 50/50 whether posts are nice or not, regardless of if they have an account. There's nice comments, rude comments, senseless baiting on both sides.

You certainly don't help the matter. AYRT tried to open up a discussion with their own point and you shot them down. Ever wonder that maybe you're half the problem here? >:[
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Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-09-07 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude. I'm talking about the internet writ large.

Not everything is about your personal fandom secrets experience.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
Meanwhile the people here with names tend to be at least marginally nicer.

Weren't you the one who made a snarky comment because of a book series I admitted I still like?

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
news site comment sections with names attached are just as dumb as ones that are anonymous

i'm not saying either way is better or worse, really, i guess what i'm saying is that people are fucking idiot assholes a lot of the time & anonymity doesn't really enter into it

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm with you on so many levels. Sadly, I think part of it is that people got into the internet when it stopped being a "thing" to care that saying things under your actual name can be a bad idea. It strikes me as ironic that some of them are probably the same people who told me fandom sounded dangerous because my fellow Harry Potter nerd from Sweden could really be an evil stalker from two towns over. But nope, now they don't care if the whole world knows their name and where they live and work.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
One wonders if this period of nonchalance about protecting your real life identity will ever come to an end, or if this is the new normal forever now

it's not like its discouraged by various internet companies either
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Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

[personal profile] blueonblue 2013-09-07 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Something I've noticed lately is people using pictures of themselves as icons on AO3. It strikes me as odd, especially on more porny works, but maybe it is more normal in western fandoms than anime fandoms.

Of course, I use a picture of myself as an icon, but that's because I'm fabulous.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's that common in western fandoms. The only one [western or otherwise] I've really seen it at all is a tiny fandom that's mostly about exercising anyways...so a lot of people end up showing pictures to show off their progress anyways.
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-09-07 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of morons on the internet are, well, morons. Generally the problem is that they're utterly uninteresting off the internet, so they put all their eggs in the internet basket.

I care a lot about identities, but that's only because I think it's good to be held accountable on the internet for what you say on the internet. I sure as hell don't understand why people would welcome real life consequences. Hell, I don't even want to share my first name.

Re: "But what about your real name:" a new ad hominem attack

(Anonymous) 2013-09-07 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, OP, It's getting to the point where having your everything out on the Internet for anyone to see is considered normal by so many people. I'm hunting for housing right now, and people keep asking for a Facebook account as proof that I'm a real person.

How about talking with me on the phone and showing you my driver's license when I come by to check out the place? Do I seriously HAVE to have a timeline of "here's what I had for breakfast" and bathroom selfies and who the fuck knows what else just to be confirmed as Real?