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Going OT here, but it's weird to think of someone of value to society contributing to FS.

Like, I always think of FS people to be, you know, unemployed mostly and the people who have jobs doing something like programming or working shops, or you know, something that isn't a big time significant high pressure worth wile job.

You know what I mean, I just think people on FS tend to be the type of people with too much time on their hands, and not enough to occupy their minds.

Anyway, You do important work, it's well appreciated, and you can play the game however the fuck you want.

We're not all baristas, I promise. =P Not that I'm ragging on baristas, they're some of my favorite people. They make the tasty beverages that keep me from falling flat on my face. This anon is in the military, and however anybody feels about that, it still consumes most of my time. Heh. It used to be that on deployment, when I got the chance I'd run and find wi-fi ASAP to catch up on all the fanfictions I was reading. And it depends on what job you're doing you are, but most of the people around me are nerdy as well. In fandom you find all kinds of people.

Green Beans coffee is the best y/y?

I was in a nerdy MOS and when LJ was blocked during my last deployment, we were all pretty devastated. We were able to use the waybackmachine though, so we all survived ;)

We apparently have a few military people who come here. I know I've at least spoken to two. So I'm not really all that surprised.

I'm not touching the part where you said that apparently the only jobs "worthwhile" are those that are life threatening.

Edited 2013-09-21 01:23 (UTC)

I did not, infact, say that. You could infer that from my comment, but you could also infer from my comment my actual sentiment: That the most worthwile jobs are life saving jobs

Of course you get to choose whatever interpretation you want.

Then I'm sorry about misinterpreting you and angering you.

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forgottenjester - 2013-09-21 02:09 (UTC) - Expand

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I just came back from a three day training exercise. I like unwinding with silly fandom stuff.

Oh my, I can understand the need to rest after something like that.

Good luck with all your training. I hope everything goes/went well with that.

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(Anonymous) - 2013-09-23 13:57 (UTC) - Expand

like programming...something that isn't high pressure...

...You, apparently, don't know many programmers.

Also you have a really screwed up sense of what's "worth while".

Poor choice of words, right? Because I can't imagine you're claiming that programmers contribute to the quality of human life to the same degree that law enforcement and medical personnel do.

On no. You and the OP are right! The only professions that are at all worth while are the ones that save lives! Thank you, I have now seen the light!

[Though, you do *do* realize that- yes - programmers have, you know, programmed things that save lives, right? Or does that count in your weird, screwed up little world?]

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silverr - 2013-09-21 11:05 (UTC) - Expand

Law enforcement does not "save lives" to the same degree that medical personnel do. That's air traffic control, and maybe farmers.

Law enforcement generally are more concerned with protection of property or after-the-fact cleanup in their day-to-day dealings. Both of these are highly worthwhile pursuits, don't get me wrong. But they're more comparable maybe to that of engineers - who often but not always do live-saving things like inventing safer cars or building bridges that don't collapse - or, yes, programmers, who often but not always develop things that improve the work of other society-critical groups.

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You're right, of course. Programmers and coffee house employees, etc, are all just as vital to the day to day saving of lives as law enforcement and paramedics.

Garbageman and proud. Without me your cities would stink of rotten shit and you'd be swimming in an ocean of your own filth, rats and flies. It's okay, it's not like that was valuable to society or anything =)

I lived in a city during a summer when their was some sort of strike or something that meant absolutely no trash in the entire city got picked up for 6 weeks. To say the least, it was not a nice summer.

What you do is vital to our society and I greatly appreciate what you do!

Sorry, not saying you're not important (Or not meaning to say that) just, well you know, Life saving.

Also, I imagine a cop or a medic needs to be driven, passionate about saving lives. Where as, and I beg your forgivness I this is not the case, I can't see anyone being passionate about refuse collection. It's sort of the 'Job' vs 'Vocation' thing. I just don't imagine that type of person with such a calling as to be a cop/medic coming home to argue the toss about which cartoon character is created by a secret racist and thoughts on yaoi etc.

So basically you can't wrap your head around the idea that cops are people. Okay then!

DA

I can see what you're saying but I'm having a lot of trouble agreeing wit the inclusion of cops. Police in some places in some countries probably are called to the life out of a desire to help people. I've met some good cops. But most that I've met in the 15 different states and 3 different countries I've live in were small minded, power-hungry bigots, many with violent tendencies. Whether they were corrupt to begin with or became that way after years on the job means nothing to me.

I just know that in city where I live now it's dangerous to pull over to the side of the road if a cop car pulls you over. People disappear that way and the city council has made statements reassuring people that it's OK to drive to an area where there are lots of people around before pulling over. And this is in the US where people seem to think the police could never be like this.

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(Anonymous) - 2013-09-21 04:26 (UTC) - Expand

Garbage removalists are part of a greater system of removing waste from cities so that it does not build up and contaminate water supplies (water-borne disease being one of the leading causes of death worldwide), block drains and sewers during heavy rainfall causing flooding in urban areas, or attract and harbour insect and/or animal populations who carry dangerous diseases e.g. the plague, for starters. And that's on top of how hugely gratifying it is not to have to sit around surrounded by your own stinking, rotting, putrefying, fermenting waste.

So, as part of that greater system, I would say that the people who remove our garbage goddamn do save the lives, as well as sanity of millions. (You have my respect, garbage removalist anon.)

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I have so much respect for garbagemen. I wish I had the fortitude to do your job!

You have a strangely narrow minded view of FSers.

FS is just as much a distraction from Real Life as the rest of Fandom. I can easily see it as a place people with busy jobs come to think about things totally unrelated to their busy jobs. And laugh at idiots.

isn't a big time significant high pressure worth wile (sic) job

Given the sheer number of doctors and lawyers I know who participate in fandom, I doubt you have a clear idea of just who tends to long for escapism.

"Someone of value to society" is a person too you know, one who has hobbies and other forms of escapism to cope with their stressful jobs.

I handle out going packages that will be loaded on to planes every night of the work week, both in moving them across belts and loading them onto tugs/into baggage carts. It's tough, strenuous work that will kill you if you do something wrong and/or make you go deaf if you should not wear your ear protection.

Fandom is my escapism from that.

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