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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2454 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2454 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
A good start would be pointing out the flaws in his rationalizations and show how harmful what he's suggesting is. Which given he is arguing for practicing pedophilia should be easy.

You sound like the type of person who thinks ~~my feels how dur you sit down and shut up MRA~~ is a substitute for having something worthwhile to say, so you might find that difficult. Drop us a link and I'm sure we could help change hearts and minds for you.

op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what you mean by the second comment. Are you calling me someone who hates MRA? That would be damn weird considering I align myself more with MRAs than feminists. I think both have valid concerns but feminism has become something I don't want to associate myself with.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
well this thread just took an exciting turn!

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
THE PLOT THICKENS!

...and gets really, really stupid

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
SO YOU CHOOSE TO BE A MRA?!?!

I think you time on this earth has come to a natural end. Please suicide.
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Re: op

[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-09-21 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what, I might not agree with the OP, and usually I just let you Anons argue among yourself, but don't ever fucking tell anyone to kill themselves! Not ever, how hard is that to understand? Seriously.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
So you are suggesting that the world WOULDN'T be infinitely better for women if all the MRA dickbags suddenly contracted AIDS and died?

No. If you're an MRA you deserve to die. Simple as that.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Bitch, I know you're trolling, but fuck off. You are a bad person, go cry somewhere about your horribleness.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey troll? you're a cunt.

Re: op

(Anonymous) - 2013-09-22 15:04 (UTC) - Expand
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Re: op

[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-09-22 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I am saying you do not under any circumstances tell anyone to kill themselves, no matter what!

How fucking hard is that to understand? I don't care how bad the person is, or what they have done, telling someone to kill themselves is not okay, ever...

op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I am egalitarian. But if I had to choose, I would choose MRA. Feminism has turned into whining about stupid shit and attacking men for trying to bring attention to legitimate causes. Fuck you if you think I am going to support a group of people that condone people like Big Red.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
feminism has turned into whining about stupid shit and attacking men for trying to bring attention to legitimate causes.

Ahh, spoken like an MRA true believer. This thread has suddenly lost any interest it may have once had. Good luck with your pedophile.

(not suicide anon. that was rude as fuck.)

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Big Red?

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
this psycho

http://youtu.be/nvYyGTmcP80

Re: op

(Anonymous) - 2013-09-21 23:46 (UTC) - Expand

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Feminists that attack men are not real feminists. Feminists should be concerned with gender equality, and while the focus is on the oppressed group - women - it's fucking stupid for any alleged "feminist" to dismiss the harm that gender roles can do to men, too.

but

Men that claim their problems are worse than women's, and that women just whine about everything while secretly controlling America are idiots.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
>Feminism has turned into whining about stupid shit and attacking men for trying to bring attention to legitimate causes.

it's amazing how you probably don't even get the hilarious contradiction within this very sentence

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
don't choose between those two, then

preach for equality between the genders and stick to that

just say that you acknowledge that there is unfairness thrown all over the place given the current status quo and you'd like for that to change if anyone presses you for details

boom problem solved

MRA is not a bad idea in and of itself, but it has taken over by people who LOATHE women and pretty much ruined anything good that could have come out of it

feminism, for all its extremists, still has a good chunk -- by size alone, if nothing else -- of people who aren't filled with bitterness and still wish to see everyone being treated justly regardless of their gender

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
what the FUCK. "Please suicide"? Please get the fuck off of the Internet, you, you have no place here.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I am just gonna get off the internet as well. Didn't know posting about a pedophile and how awful they are would end with someone telling me to kill myself. At least no one has Reddit has ever told me that!

<3

(Anonymous) - 2013-09-22 01:46 (UTC) - Expand

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
... and they ask why nobody posts here anymore.

What is this ugly comment? Go to 4Chan.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Report the pedophile and hope the police can track his IP and lock him up. It will be the only good thing a MRA has ever done for the human race.

The shit MRAs complain about are in fact the Patriarchy's fault, and if you really want to fight against that stuff, being a MRA is not the way. Transversal feminism that integrates everyone no matter the cred, social class or sexual condition/gender is the way. I'm sorry some RadFem hurt your pwecious feels so hard you decided to become such scum. Believe me: The majority of us feminist hate RadFems too. They bring a bad rap to the movement.

On the other hand, if you're one of those MRAs that cry bitter tears because gender roles are "getting so blurred" and think women should get back to the kitchen, kindly fuck off with your fedora and go step on a thousand Legos.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I AM A WOMAN! I HAVE BOOBS AND A VAGINA AND TWO X CHROMOSOMES. Do you want pics of my tits to confirm?

JFC, you think everyone who even sympathizes with some MRA complaints (Prejudices in education against boys, De jure sexism in divorce courts, Sexism with regards to child-support and custody, De jure sexism domestic violence laws, the belief that men can’t be raped or abused, let alone by women) is a some "fedora wearing man".

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
you can agree with or sympathize about those things without affiliating yourself with the poisonous and irredeemable MRA movement, though.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Um, all of those issues you've listed are feminist issues.
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Hello, this is the previous poster, no longer an Anon

[personal profile] lynx 2013-09-22 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, what the FFFF, I'll de-anon myself. I'm not afraid to say this stuff with an uncovered face.

Why in the overheated hell would I require you pics to ID yourself? I'm not some 4chan /b/ dweller screaming for TITS OR GTFO. You think I don't know there are indeed women affiliated with the MRA movement? Women with severely internalized misogyny, yeah, but they exist. I wasn't making any assumptions about your gender!

(Though, if you think that tits/vag or XX chromosomes are required to qualify as "a woman", dear god, your issues go deeper than I'm willing to discuss.)

There are prejudices in education against boys, and the widespread belief that men can't be raped or be physically damaged in the context of a relationship. Of course these are things that exist! And know what? Feminists know this. And are fighting against this kind of shit. BECAUSE THIS ISSUES ARE, TOO, CAUSED BY THE PATRIARCHY/KYRIARCHY. Not by women. WOMEN ARE NOT THE ENEMY. As for the "de jure" prejudice in divorce/child custody, there are statistics that prove that at least in the US, the issue is way more complex than you are presenting it to be, and actually the law tends to favor men.

THE PATRIARCHY HURTS BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, AND QUEER/GENDERFLUID INDIVIDUALS, and actually pretty fucking everyone. But to keep things simple, let's talk in binary: for men, yeah, it hurts them and shapes them with a lot of pressure and social expectations, but it also comes with a lot of perks and benefits and I don't see most of them complaining about their lot. Meanwhile, for women, well, we're pretty much screwed in every possible aspect and have to fight nail and tooth to even be recognized in the workforce. And we still don't have equality in the money we get paid for doing the same jobs, for example, and have to endure things like sexual harrassment in the workplace. (And in the streets. And even inside our own homes.)

RadFems, as I said, are another bag of cats entirely, and you SHOULD NOT judge an entire HUGE, ALL-ENCOMPASSING TRANSVERSAL movement that works for equality just because you disagree with an angry but vocal sub-category that's actually a small minory inside the movement.

You may not be a man, but your fedora is right there in plain view. Time to do some introspection.