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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-03 07:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2466 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-10-03 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed

OP is probably one of those people who talk all the time about writing but never do any, are more into the fantasy of being A Writer than they are into doing the boring old work. Sort of like Lady Catherine de Bourgh from Pride and Prejudice, who would have been a great pianist if only she had ever bothered to learn.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-03 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see that. Although . . . among the people I've met who only wanted to write because of some fantasy of being A Writer were some of the most prolific writers I've come across.

It's just that they were prolific but horrible.

I suspect that there are a lot of people who really aren't writers who actually do produce a lot specifically because they don't have any kind of internal quality-control.

None of them could take criticism or improve, though.
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[personal profile] misty_anon 2013-10-04 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's amazing how much shit a non-writer can churn out.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

A friend of a friend once literally shoved his novel into my hands within two minutes of meeting him.

Oh god, it was the most amazingly bad thing I've ever read. Like, it was literally incomprehensible. I read it all the way through, and I still have no clue what it was about, except that there were robots in it.
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[personal profile] misty_anon 2013-10-04 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I still have no clue what it was about, except that there were robots in it.

That made me laugh. Sorry.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
A co-worker of my husband gave him her book for me to read when he mentioned that I both write and edit for others. She 'wanted an honest opinion' of her self published book.

It was hard back with a MSRP of $25.

I couldn't get through the first chapter due to all of the basic grammatical and spelling errors. Forget the lame premise. It took me a week to figure out how to let her down without causing him problems at work.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
If you write, you're a writer. You may not be a good writer, but you're a writer, nonetheless.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's either the one or the other. Either they can't stop, or their "writing" is restricted to sitting in cafes and playing minesweeper. And maybe rewriting the same scene over and over again, like Joe Gould.
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[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-10-04 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'll add to this that "real" writers can tend to be self-critical ragequitters who never finish a damn thing

The output of both groups can surprise you, basically. :P

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Can't agree. If you never finish a damn thing, you do not get to call yourself a "real writer." You are playing at writing. There's a difference.
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[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-10-04 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I guess that was hyperbole. The basic point was that there are people who can't really write who crank out page after page of crap, and people who can who finish far fewer things than they start.

...Which isn't much of a point, really. :P Carry on.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Just finish something, some of the time, and put it out there. that's all I ask.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
What are you, like, the emminece on who is or isn't a writer? like, are you god?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Finishing the occasional piece of writing is a pretty minimal standard, OP.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-04 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
That wasn't what nonny asked tho, nice sidestepping there Writer God.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-05 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Alright, let's put it this way:

Saying that you don't have much of a right to call yourself a writer if you never finish anything ever is not presuming to be "the emminece on who is or isn't a writer," or some sort of Writer God. That's because finishing something, sometimes is such a pathetically low place to set the bar. How the fuck do you call yourself a writer if you never finish your work? Answer me that.

Also, there's no such word as "emminece." Were you trying to say "eminence"? How cute.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-10-07 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
I would call myself a writer simply because I sometimes write stuff. The fact that I am not good at finishing stuff I start writing means I consider myself not a good writer.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-10-07 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Being someone who has seen writers whose work is not bad but they seem to never be able to finish anything before they wander off to write a newer idea... I agree with you.

Also, the main reason I almost never write is that I know I am exactly that sort of person.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-08 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

This is why I don't call myself a writer.
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[personal profile] mechanosapience 2013-10-04 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
I met someone like this through National Novel Writing Month events in my area. She would hit 50k halfway through the month. Anyway, we were both part of a social group that tried to get together during the rest of the year for editing and critiquing each other's work. It was only then that I realized what dreck she was churning out. It was painful. Not only was she a terrible writer, but she refused to accept that her work was anything other than a perfectly polished jewel.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-03 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep.