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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-23 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2486 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-10-23 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
same

i don't understand where all that shit came from
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-10-23 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
People not being satisfied with the level of strange (or minorities, for that matter) so they have to keep adding MORE and MORE and MORE.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I always imagined him as originally human.

The tentacles, tattoos, and increasingly metro-sexual clothing irk me to no end, but I *was* sold on the eye thing because it's this constant, like his glasses, so people could bring that into their cosplay etc, plus I've noticed that it's a very fashionable design element right now; eyes, slime etc.

I think it could bring a lot of character to his mannerisms too, and if it's NOT something 'natural' or something he was born with, then I'm down with that. It could have scary religious undertones, and just add a freaky body horror flavor. I like it.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-10-23 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell yeah! My headcanon Cecil is just a normal-lookin' dude, and it makes me sad that I don't see any art that looks like him.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-23 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, good, I was beginning to think I was the only one. Unless it's ever explicitly mentioned, I like to picture Cecil as really humanly normal.
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AMEN

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-10-23 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
PREACH

(Anonymous) 2013-10-23 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
If your headcanon Cecil doesn't look like this

http://i.imgur.com/bZbwHzb.jpg

then you are a racist fucker and I hope you step on a thousand legos.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-23 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
What a babe!!

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Nightmares. Nightmares forever.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-10-24 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
NOW WERE TALKIN

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-23 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't like Cecil with a third eye.

(That is all.)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-23 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I had no idea people didn't think he was a 'normal' looking bloke until I saw some fanart on Tumblr. In my head he's a dorky looking white guy with a receding hairline and thick glasses.
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[personal profile] electromouse 2013-10-23 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Omg same here.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-10-23 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the art you desire. I believe I can even get him without regular tattoos.

So yes, I have the art you crave.

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[personal profile] elaminator 2013-10-23 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually like most of the fanart I've seen, third eye and tattoos and all, but in my head Cecil is always human. Or mostly human. Usually cute, but in a nondescript way. I don't like the idea of Cecil with tentacles at all and a lot of the weirder/more elaborate head-canons don't click with me.

But I guess that's the beauty of WTNV; everyone can imagine him how they want! (Well, there are vague guidelines, but those too will be ignored occasionally.)

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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-10-23 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Basically yeah. I don't need Cecil to have an extra eye or shit like that.

(though I'm dreadfully behind so idek)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I'm going to step out on a pretentious, over extended limb here and say that I think the majority of (at least Tumblr) WtNV fandom can't reconcile a normal Cecil with a bizarre Night Vale for at least one big reason: because they aren't clever enough.

To be able to accept distinct cognitive dissonance like that-- normal looking people, behaving strangely, accepting an extremely strange reality, a concept that is just bizarre enough for you to feel intensely uncomfortable about-- is extremely difficult. They can't reconcile these two extremities.

So instead, they have to alter the fabric of the characters to match the environment of the characters; they have to be just as bizarre, just as out of place, just as Other as their world, and then they can accept it and move on with it.

Because as much as Tumblr likes to bitch and whine about there not being enough diversity or what the fuck ever in WTnV, the sad truth of the matter is: they are the venomous, dull shitheels who are unable to reconcile their own unfortunate inability to hold inherently contradictory concepts together and enjoy them.

So they jump to point out perceived flaws in the material, and shape it to their own accepted version of Other-- rather than stopping and examining what is already there in the source. I think a lot of us here would agree that there is nothing creepier than watching a normal looking guy interact with the terribly strange, with a mix of ease, fear, and reverence.

Watching a guy with tentacles do it divorces him from us, and removes the need to reconcile that cognitive dissonance. It creates distance between normality-- something we would arguably define as centered around ourselves, and therefore human-- and abnormality, which is essentially Night Vale in a nutshell.

Sure I may be over reading fandom's tendencies to a large degree, but I maintain that hey-- listening to a guy who isn't quite human isn't quite the same as listening to a guy who is entirely human. And therefore, you don't need to engage with him or the depth of the material as much, because you don't identify with that person.

So yeah-- it's fandom's way of trying to fix their own inability to deal with cognitive dissonance. Make the guy more bizarre, and you don't have to deal with the dawning horror that in this universe, regular people are dealing with absolutely terrible shit.

/steps off soapbox and immolates self

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not in this fandom but I can't understand how anything human is boring. Humans are by FAR the most diverse species, even in Sci-Fi and fantasy.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Is it ironic that human! Cecil is my KINK? XD
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[personal profile] crazed_delusion 2013-10-24 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I was told was told that it came for a major artist who depicted him like that and fandom kind of just latched on like they do.

I was even linked to what they believed was the original but I can't find the link for the life of me.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
It seems super lazy and unimaginative to me.
If someone in Night Vale is inhuman then it'll either be hilariously obvious or totally understated. Like either Cecil is a sentient colony of bees or he really never sleeps and assumes no one does either. The Cassette was so very creepy because of how totally normal Cecil was and how totally normal he seems to still be.
Oogly boogly Halloween ideas of eyes, tentacles and ooze are just boring and off tone for the whole Night Vale canon.
bet: Theo Rossi's character in Sons of Anarchy, naked with a billboard on his chest: Slightly retarded child. Please adopt me (Please adopt me)

[personal profile] bet 2013-10-24 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
I absolutely agree. I've seen a few pull it off in a subtle and funny enough way for it to pass, but mostly I just want him human - I don't care what ethnicity, it all fits! It did make me laugh though when someone somewhere said that he was really too dorky to be anything but white.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, OP.

As soon as I saw all the third eye tenticle art I made the decision to avoid the fandom. I don't feel i'm missing anything tbh.

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[personal profile] pts 2013-10-24 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
STRONGLY AGREE