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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-02 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2496 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2496 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
lol potential readers

(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
they're totally gonna get published!!

(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
lol, this.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-11-02 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
thread over in one afaic
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[personal profile] ariakas 2013-11-02 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Annnnnnnd done in one!
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-11-03 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
mte Good luck, troll

(Anonymous) 2013-11-03 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Aaaand scene.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you actually know what fridging is though? Because I get the feeling you have no clue what you're talking about.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
that sounds really dumb
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-11-02 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well now I'm sure your novel will shoot straight to the top of the best sellers list.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2013-11-02 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought fridging was where you kill an important female character in order to further the plot. Her death becomes the main male characters' motivation. So, if you murder a "random" woman character, that wouldn't be fridging, that'd just be cannon fodder.
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(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, what this person is describing is the "Disposable Woman" trope: a one-dimensional woman whose only importance to the narrative is that she was important to the male hero and kick-starts a plot with her death.

Technically anyone, male or female can be fridged to motivate the hero, though it's usually female.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2013-11-02 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Other way around. Fridging is when the female character is unimportant in her own right, not treated as a person but as a plot point, only introduced so that her quick death can cause the male characters angst. It doesn't even have to be plot-important angst.

The term comes from when DC Comics did exactly that. Gave Green Lantern a girlfriend for the sole purpose of having a villain kill her off. (And, uh, leave her dead body in GL's fridge for him to find, thus the word.)
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-11-02 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, lol. I've been trying to talk myself into taking the plunge into Supernatural so that I can keep up with Mark, but guuuuh idk.

I'm sure the show is better than what it seems, but my impression of the fandom just based on general wanderings through the internet were... not good. Which makes it hard for me to want to jump into that.

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You rebel, you.

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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2013-11-02 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, congratulations on opting for a cheap, cliched, boring method of kick-starting a story.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-11-02 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not like it's any less silly when a man is horribly killed off at the beginning to motivate a woman (e.g. Blood of the Werewolf.) The problem is that there's just no investment in the death of a character we don't know.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm wondering now...I hope you don't mind me asking this but...in my story in the mid beginning a couple (the protagonists' parents) are murdered and the protagonists end up going to stay with relatives and one of the protagonists tries to figure out why they where killed and who did it. This leads them to start discovering some 'family secrets about the father's family and internal conflicts that contributed.


The characters who died become ongoing posthumous characters and you find out little things about their lives after the fact, through what's happening in the present.

Is that fridging?

(Also I'm well aware that parents dieing is a bit of a cliche...which has made me very worried about writing it. It literally happened because it was the most likely result of IC actions taken by other characters (like certain villains.Hopefully other aspects and secondary character side-stories will make up for it.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're writing out of a grudge/to 'show' people that you don't care, your writing probably sucks :)

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-02 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh that place. I keep my mouth shut, because I don't want to get banned, but there was literally someone there who said "all the show's problematic stuff could be solveed by making Sam a girl, and it WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING WITH THE STORY!" and I'm just like "I get it. You want Supernatural to be about sisters or mixed sibs. But it's not. JFC find something else to bitch about."

And I just can't with the person new(?) who does a copy pasta of "snarky" liveblogging that takes up about four comments worth of space.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-03 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, anon. Not only will social critics not read your NaNo project, no one else will read it, either.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-03 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
what a brave and creative mind, to do what has been done a million times before

truly i am in the presence of greatness

one who evaluates their story to make sure it comes together to have the greatest effect possible rather than sucumbbing to bitterness and spite in the face of criticism

bravo

(Anonymous) 2013-11-03 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This is my place to say I FUCKING HATE THAT GUY.

First, I think he's lying about how much he doesn't know for comic effect, and the fact the entire premise of his blog is a fucking lie bothers me. (If he's not lying, he's a prig who must have spent half his conversations about pop culture over the last 15 years going LALALA and shielding his ears because !!!!OMGSPOILERS!!!! and I still hate him.)

Second, the list of things not to do in his comment section for fear of being offensive is like a parody of SJWs. I'm pretty politically correct myself, but there's a point where it just gets ridiculous.

In conclusion, Mark sucks.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-04 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
So, you're basically writing a bog-standard thriller? Because I can't tell you how many begin that way. I gave up on them less because I find the genre offensive, than because I was utterly bored.