[ SECRET POST #2504 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2504 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

SA - unless you're talking about flame wars or something, which is... not really related to social issues.

I think fandom is generally liberal and I've had many fandom friends who've admitted to me that they were slightly (or more) homophobic until they got involved.

[kaijinscendre]

Someone posted a secret a couple days ago talking about how he/she wishes they were more conservative because not being 100% completely liberal has caused her problems.

I have also seen fandom people attack others because they don't actually support [SLASH COUPLE]. This makes them homophobic assholes. Or if you don't like a certain female character, you are totally a misogynist. I have seen people who have been ran off Tumblr for simply stating an opinion. And instead of ignoring it (or trying to calmly talk about it), they are sent horrible hate mail until they have to delete their blogs.

Being liberal does not make you more open minded.

/ jaded anon

[(Anonymous)]

AGREED SO HARD OMG

I see so many people who think being liberal makes them open-minded, who claim to be open minded and progressive ..but then they'll send someone hate-mail for disagreeing with them and tell someone "fuck off and drink bleach" for presenting a different perspective or telling them their opinion about X cause is misinformed, or telling them that they're speaking over someone who's a member of some group.

They'll trigger someone with a disorder or put them on a black list of supposed "rape apologists" or they'll post their address and tell people to reblog because that person is TOTALLY a danger to everyone after an argument with them.

You know what's a true test of how open minded you are? If you can take someone voicing a different opinion without cussing them out and shutting them down with "check your privilege" (because surely anyone doesn't agree with you MUST be privileged amirite?)

Re: / jaded anon

[kaijinscendre]

they'll post their address and tell people to reblog because that person is TOTALLY a danger to everyone after an argument with them

This is the fucking worst. Especially since they usually post these addresses based off of IP addresses (doxxing). It is like they don't understand how IP addresses work.

Re: / jaded anon

[writerserenyty]

"or they'll post their address and tell people to reblog because that person is TOTALLY a danger to everyone after an argument with them."

I saw a post on Tumblr a while back where they got a LOT of people trying to take down a guy. He was an independent lawyer, and they were spamming his yelp page and telling anyone who would listen shit about how he was a terrible person. This is from an incorrect IP address search of someone who said the equivalent of "lol rape" in someone's ask box.

This is when I kind of lost a lot of faith in the tumblr community as a whole.

Re: / jaded anon

[kaijinscendre]

Yup! I saw that one too.

Re: / jaded anon

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you.

Re: / jaded anon

[dreemyweird]

Yes. Some folks just don't seem to realize that being tolerant does not meant being tolerant exclusively towards social groups they like.

Re: / jaded anon

[(Anonymous)]

This *so* much.

+100000000000000000

[iceyred]

If there was a like button on dreamwidth...

Yes to all of this.

[fleshisyummy]

Hmm, I've honestly never seen this. I've seen people delete their blogs before, but they were generally bad people. One of them was a guy who admitted to raping someone, and another was a white guy who continued to use n-word even after people told him to stop. He deleted his blog, and one of my friends took his url and he started whining and offering to buy the url from my friend for $300. Another was a guy who was sexually harassing young girls. I don't really feel like it was much of a loss?

I think people get kind of melodramatic about people deleting their tumblrs. No one is forced to delete their tumblr, and it's not that big of a deal if you do.

I don't like a canon slash ship in one of my fandoms, and I ship the main character with a female character he has shown attraction to instead. A lot of people don't like the couple, and I've seen people flat-out bash it all the time, but I've never received hate specifically geared toward me for shipping it or running a blog for the ship.

Then again, I'm not in large fandoms filled with notoriously douchey people, so things could be different elsewhere.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Trust me, the other sort exist too.

[fleshisyummy]

Yeah, like I said, it might happen in larger fandoms, but I'm not really all that involved in those. I have to admit that I'm generally not all that sympathetic toward the people "run off of tumblr." They're usually pretty nasty people for what I've seen.

I'm also kind of curious what people seem to think "hate" is. I've been pretty blunt and terse with people before, but I've never wished harm on anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Confirmation Bias.

Just because that's all you've seen doesn't mean it's the only situation that exists.

Also it's not dramatic to want to quit if people are saying horrible things to you. Not everyone who gets bullied on Tumblr deserves it.

[fleshisyummy]

Uhhhhh, I never said it didn't happen. I just said I personally have never seen it.

I never said it was dramatic to quit. I just said it's dramatic when people act like deleting your tumblr is like the ~worst possible thing that could happen~ lol.

[(Anonymous)]

this, sfm.

[(Anonymous)]

+1,000,000 to this.

[(Anonymous)]

Or if you don't like a certain female character, you are totally a misogynist.

Well, let's not kid ourselves--fandom in general is HORRIBLY misogynistic. Female characters are scrutinized and ripped apart to a disgusting degree. I have to say, whenever someone goes off about how they "hate" a female character who's written as being nuanced and flawed (egs., Ginny, Betty Draper) like all human beings, yes, my default assumption is that they're misogynistic. (Someone like Umbridge, however, is a different story--she is obviously written as a villain.)

Being liberal does not make you more open minded.

I definitely agree and I'm pretty liberal.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought people generally hated Ginny because she's not nuanced and doesn't have flaws. Unlike say, Hermione or Luna, who are pretty popular. Is someone who hates Ginny but likes those characters a misogynist?

[badass_tiger]

I think it all depends on where you hang out. I remember the first fandom forum that I hung out at really opened my eyes to those kind of social issues. Then I joined Tumblr, which I'm really glad wasn't the first fandom place I found. Some people there are just a different kind of bigot, you know.

[(Anonymous)]

Only rich straight white men can be bigots. /Sarcasm

[(Anonymous)]

even hardcore SJWs don't believe that tho

[badass_tiger]

Yes. That's pretty much how it goes. And as long as you're a minority in America, you can do no wrong. Ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom might be generally liberal, but that doesn't make it generally open-minded or accepting. There are still plenty of hateful liberal asshats who will attack anyone for daring to voice even a slightly differing opinion.

[sporkly]

Some of the more liberal places I've joined have been very unwelcoming and elitist to people who don't share their views. Especially to people who were just ignorant about certain issues. Not to mention there's pockets of conservative fandom around too.