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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-23 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2517 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2517 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-23 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
you're aware that sesh left rin in a human village to allow her to grow up and live a normal human life, right?

there's nothing wrong with shippers head canoning that once rin grows up she decides to go back to traveling with sesh. that doesn't automatically make it ~gross~ so long as their relationship is not romantic up until that point.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-23 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about that, I feel like if a relationship starts out when there's a huge power imbalance and age gap, just waiting until they're legal doesn't change that.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-23 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
that still doesn't make it totally creepy?

seriously, mayfly-december romances are a big popular thing. same as bodyguard crushes. so long as there isn't rapey shit or ageing-the-body-but-not-the-mind dynamics, it's fine.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-23 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"Mayfly-December"?

Is this a typo or is he immortal?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-23 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

...isn't he? I thought demons lived forever.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-23 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

It was a serious question, I don't know the source material.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
IIRC he's an uber powerful dog-like spirit monster who's already lived several centuries by the time the series begins, and he's still relatively young for one of his kind. So it's to be expected, if he doesn't die in battle, he's going to live for several centuries more.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-23 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Mayfly-December is a category on tv tropes.
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[personal profile] seashadows 2013-11-23 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"Mayfly-December Romance" is a term for a relationship in which one of the pair is going to live much, much longer than the other (usually supernaturally-derived), so that the other partner has a lifespan like a mayfly in comparison.
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[personal profile] comma_chameleon 2013-11-23 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally to me there's a difference between 'starting with a power/age imbalance and living together until they're legal' and 'starting with a power/age imbalance and not seeing each other until they're legal'.

The first situation could come across as skeevy and grooming, whereas to me there isn't anything wrong with the second one because just meeting someone when you're young and then being with them when you're old (with no or minimal contact between those stages) doesn't feel like the older person is grooming the younger or taking advantage of what could be considered a position of power in the younger person's life.

Also, this secret reminds me of a recent rant on fanficrants, and I have to wonder if the secret-maker is the person that person was ranting about...

(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed with your first point.
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-11-24 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure Rin saw Sess though. He brought her stuff and checked on her.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
True, but the actual raising was being done by Kaede, and what we saw of his visits they were very short. I don't think that would lead to the same skeevy kind of imbalance in a future relationship that actually living together and him raising her would, though of course YMMV.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm, no, him going to see her regularly really kind of gives the impression that if he does get with her in the future, he was waiting for her to grow up, no matter how short the visits are.

I'm sorry, but he pretty much raised her for an entire year, and he's still an authority in her life. That's really freakin' skeevy.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Thinking bout it, is basically "the time traveler's" wife in that aspect.

And you don't see people flipping their shit over that one.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
er, people most certainly did. it's just not really the kind of movie to garner a fandom so the crit was mostly in certain places and the odd belated tumblr post

(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I had one of my dad's friends try to push himself on me once I was legal, and there wasn't anything romantic between us until that point. Should I have not been totally creeped out by that? Should I have assumed that he all of a sudden found me attractive without any intent before my eighteenth birthday?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really sorry that happened to you, and I hope your dad kicked that creep to the curb. No one just drops their established platonic relationships with people they knew as children just because they become sexually mature. You have to assume that they were hanging around and waiting when that stuff happens.

I think that people who say it's okay don't really understand how relationships in general work. Yeah, people are generally sexually attracted to sexually mature people, but people don't really tend to think of others whom they have familial relationships as "available" in that way.

And no, folks, "familial" is not just restricted to people who share your blood. Adoption exists. Friendzoning exists. False kinship exists.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck off that there's nothing wrong with that. It's an idea that basically reinforces the all-encompassing notion that women are only there to sexually gratify men, and that girls are just sexual-gratification-machines in training. And the notion that women and girls can't have meaningful platonic relationships with men. And that growing curves suddenly makes girls available to anyone with a penis. And that men only associate with women if they can sometime now or in the future have sex with them. And that all of these notions in tandem equals TRUE LOVE.

You are aware that this bullshit is misogyny at its finest, right?