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[ SECRET POST #2550 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2550 ⌋

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[Rachel Getting Married]

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[american horror story: coven]

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[Rules of Engagement]

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Because there are many pieces of 'children's entertainment' that are honestly more mature than a lot of stuff catered toward adults?

(I watch a lot of both, but in some cases I definitely think I'd rather watch the kiddie stuff.)

Edited 2013-12-27 00:59 (UTC)

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Grave of the Fireflies is the first thing that springs to mind, for me at least.

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I recently watched Kaiba, which is animated, and I was really impressed with how it dealt with adult themes and how introspective it was. In particular, it was good about dealing with body swapping and feeling uncomfortable in them without resorting to the whole comedic schtick or dumb jokes that usually comes with that sort of thing. It also had a sex scene that didn't feel to me at least that it was added for drama or sexiness that I've seen in adult live action shows but rather part of the narrative. It was also more reliant on a "show, don't tell" narrative than most live action shows I've seen.

Well it could just be a matter of opinion, but I would consider a tv show like Avatar: the Last Airbender to be a superior presentation of a lot of adult ideas to a lot of adult shows. I think that Up offers a more mature and nuanced approach to love and grieving than most adult entertainment, and I legitimately think it was the best film the year it came out. Both are animated, and both are geared toward younger audiences. Someone mentioned Grave of the Fireflies as well.

Also children's and YA lit are kind of my focus study-wise, and I feel like YA lit especially is often a lot braver about tackling adult issues than actual adult books.

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Wizards vs Aliens is a perfect example. Watch the Thirteenth Floor episodes and you'll see.

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I don't understand people who think this is a one-or-the-other proposition. It's possible to watch and enjoy both "grown-up" shows and animated/kid-oriented shows.

Kid's shows can be serious, deep and interesting.

Confer: http://daughter-in-the-basement.tumblr.com/post/39118327867/the-fridge-horror-of-dannielle-phantom < fridge implications in a show on fuckin Nickleodeon.

(also look at some of the stuff Avater: The Last Airbender and the first season of Korra had.

Kid's shows don't have to mean mindless immature garbage. Also people can watch both.

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I personally watch both. I watch stuff like Criminal Minds ,Cold Case Files, and Law and Order SVU, but I also watch stuff like Danny Phantom , Disney movies, and MLP:FiM.

I don't think there's many adults that exclusively watch kid's shows, many people watch both. Though for me....sometimes the daily drama of life, dark and dramatic stuff and all that gets to be monotonous or just to much. and kids shows have some element of innocence and hope at the end and some shows just remind me of the good parts of being a kid again.

Also, sometimes the characters and story just grab me and pull me in. *Shrug* simple as that, an interesting show is an interesting show.

Oh also..sometimes "adult works" can be aimed at adults but still not really mature.

Watching Big Bang Theory with my parents is just downright uncomfortable for me sometimes and not just because my parents are there (but that doesn't help).

Just because it's for an older audience doesn't make it "more mature"

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there was some surprisingly dark stuff in danny phantom, yeah

(too bad that the guy that kept pushing the show in that mature direction then left at the end of season 2. oh well)

Steve Marmel?

Yeah...I felt like the best episodes were the ones with Steve around. After that in season 3...well a lot of things took a dip in quality. Butch Hartman's fondness of Sam REALLY showed (I like Sam back when she was portrayed as more flawed thanks very much) and some of the characters got derailed.

Vlad for instance suddenly gained an obsession with ruling shit that turned him into ANOTHER take-over-the world villain. *groans*

Oh but D-Stabilized was pretty good...probably the only S3 ep I really loved. The Danny/Valerie tension was GLORIOUS and Danielle's story was brought to a good conclusion.

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Avatar had some of the systemic thinking about power and environment that I just come to expect in the SF&F I read. Some of that is Juvenile/YA, most isn't.

Yeah, animated and general audience usually has a much lower quality of story telling it's expected and much easier to get away with, but I really like a lot artsy stuff done in some of animation and it's occasionally nice to watch something where you don't have to care about mature topics for mature adults, I guess. I like the short show length (ie 12 or 24 episodes) you usually see in anime too, because seasonal rot doesn't happen as much, even if most of there's not too many things in anime actually worth watching.

I like the short show length (ie 12 or 24 episodes) you usually see in anime too, because seasonal rot doesn't happen as much

This is exactly why I have stopped watching almost all Western TV shows-- I can't stand the way they drag them on and on instead of just letting the story end. Give me a 12-episode show with a definitive plot arc and ending over a rambling 8-season show that just keeps decaying more and more in each season as writers change and actors come and go.

It doesn't feel like shows for grownups are allowed to be idealistic anymore. I mean, even the recent Superman movie went all dark and serious. I'm an idealistic person, so I naturally prefer the stuff made for children nowadays over the stuff made for grownups nowadays. (BTW, I would watch the hell out of something for adults that recaptured the tone and feel of the original Star Trek series--I think that's what people are looking for that they can only find in children's shows these days.)

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Hell, they can even go earlier than that. The Judy Garland/Mickey Rooney films spring to mind if you want light and fun (and good songs, too).

As opposed to YA lit since 1960s, which is never cynical, melodramatic, or dark.

I agree. My aversion to gore led me to check out a few episodes of Goosebumps once in the hopes that I could get a good scary story without the explicit, copious blood and guts most adult scary fare seems to absolutely require these days, even on network TV. While the stories were pretty good, I couldn't really get into them because the characters were tweens or high schoolers and I just couldn't relate to them at all. Once you get past the core plot, it's all about dealing with parents and school and, well, kid things.

I don't see how someone's supposed maturity level would dictate what they find fun :/

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