[ SECRET POST #2557 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2557 ⌋

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Comments

[sarillia]

Maybe they have gotten too obsessed with it and consider it a false idol. I know some religious people who take that "no idols" thing very seriously and say anything can be an idol if you spend more time on it than your religion.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is what came to my mind as well.

[weaselbee]

That's what I was thinking. Some religious people wouldn't take to fandom because of how much time/feelings are spent on fantasy, rather than reality.

[(Anonymous)]

And yet they spend their time contemplating a different fantasy...

[(Anonymous)]

lmao this

[(Anonymous)]

Don't they already spend time/feelings on a fantasy...

[elaminator]

Ooo, that might be it. (I've heard my dad mention it. TBH I usually tune him out and go back to tumblr, but hey, whatever works.)

It seems just as likely as OP wanting to avoid the abundance of porn and stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's this exactly. I used to wrestle with the fact that I often spend way more time thinking about characters then I do praying/meditating/worshipping. But then I learned to stop worrying and embrace the porny fanfic xP

I sometimes wonder if my remaining Christian friend is praying for my soul, but then I did see her flailing at Amanda Tapping at comic expo last year so idk. Technically being an artist isn't very cool in certain circles either (unless you're painting religious allegories) and I'm definitely not quitting that. It's a slippery slope.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here.

This is basically what I am asking myself/struggling with RN yeah. My church has never been against SF, quite the opposite, but that's not exactly a good thing, because of where it ended up leading a lot of people (including me) after some stuff happened. (Not to a good place.)

I don't read any fanfic, though, and my only fandom participation is here. So. IDK....

[(Anonymous)]

OP here.

DW ate my comment?? Anyway.

This is basically what I am asking myself RN, yeah. Not that my church was ever against SF (kind of the opposite, though fantasy was always considered a bit sketch), but that ended up not being a good thing, because reading SF led a lot of people (including me) down some not so good paths, after some stuff happened (sorry I can't be specific). Now, in the present, they are anti-books in general, but thankfully nobody listens to the people at the top anymore. :-P

I don't read fanfic though, and my only fandom participation is here. So. IDK....

[(Anonymous)]

anti-books in general

I'm sorry. I try to be respectful of people's beliefs, but this is really scary to me.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here

...does it help if I tell you that all of us generally mock these "leaders" for how nonsensical they are, and what ridiculous things they say? They decided to join up with the book-burning/funeral-picketing people in the States, but the rest of us elsewhere in the world still carry on as if they've never made a dent, though there was a lot of trouble, when it first happened, a lot of families were destroyed, and more than a few people turned atheist over it. Or very very bitter.

But, yeah, the anti-book thing (it was a couple of years ago) really made me shake my head. They used to be the exact opposite, until they signed up with the Terry Jones/Fred Phelps crowd.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
From just the bare essentials you've shared it actually sounds a bit cult-like, which is not a very good environment and I can see how that would lead to a lot of doubt and introspection.

Either way, I wish you luck on your journey and hope you find the peace between fandom enjoyment and personal belief.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here

Yeah they are a lot more sketch than they used to be. Ah well it doesn't really impact my life anyway because they are all very far away from me, geographically AND theologically, so I can basically ignore it all and carry on with my life. :-) Thank you for the well wishes!

[chardmonster]

because reading SF led a lot of people (including me) down some not so good paths, after some stuff happened (sorry I can't be specific).

...what

Did you start reading too much Star Trek porn?

[(Anonymous)]

OP here

Nooooooo but a lot of ex-members tried to use (non-porn) SF to shore up their extremely vehement atheism. I did too, for a little while. It wasn't a pretty picture. :-(

[(Anonymous)]

Wait... are you saying that atheism is what the "not so good paths" you mentioned a few comments ago was all about? :\

[(Anonymous)]

I saw your message below that you've gone to bed, so I do hope you see this. I am an atheist and most of us are normal, moral people. There are extremists however, like there are in any group. If people in this church are become extreme and possibly violent, I think that's more a reaction to the strict rules this 'religion' (I'm sorry, just based on what you've told us, I agree with the other anon that it sounds more like a cult). It's not the fault of science fiction books.

[(Anonymous)]

>some not so good paths
>atheism

Uh......

[visp]

Okay, OP, you'll probably not want to hear this, but atheism isn't a "bad path." I mean, I understand if you still want the community and belonging that comes with being part of your semi-cult (been there) but a more objective and logical view of the world isn't a bad thing.

I would, however, recommend you read some actual atheist literature instead of Fanfic in order to further analyze if you agree with atheist tenants.

[(Anonymous)]

What, renters who don't believe in god or something?
Don't you mean tenets?

[visp]

Huh? Oh, yeah, typo. Well spotted.

[(Anonymous)]

Atheist tenants as opposed to what?- atheist landlords!?

[nyxelestia]

Then the question becomes: you say "religious reasons", but what are those reasons, exactly?

Is there something in fandom you cannot abide by the rules of your faith? Is it the potential for 'false idols'? Is it Lent? Is it that fandom is influential on your introspection and you want to re-evaluate yourself without that influence? Are you just looking to spend more time on your faith and cutting down on fandom as a step towards that goal?