[ SECRET POST #2557 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2557 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder what religious reasons someone would have for quitting fandom?

[(Anonymous)]

I can see someone with strict religious standards being uncomfortable with the amount of porn and stuff, although even that's not every pocket. (It's more and more frequent these days, though.) I remember telling a very religious friend about fandom, but I was hesitant to get her entirely involved because I knew she wouldn't even watch PG-13 movies, so how would she take some of the stuff on LJ?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh excellent point. I just kept thinking it must have something to do with all the gay, but yeah there is a lot of porn and sex and not very PG-13 stuff in fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, tbh while I wouldn't say everything has to be PG-13 for me, even I participate far less than I would otherwise because I don't really... care for porn. It's not for religious reasons, it's just not who I am, so that minimizes my participation. :/

[(Anonymous)]

I also had a friend in school who wouldn't watch PG-13 movies. We wrote fanfic together as kids - before the internet was widely available at home - and then in college I started to find out about the whole fandom culture (we were just writing stories about our favorite characters). We're mostly just casual acquaintances now, and I know she does SCA-type cosplay, so I assume someone has told her fanfic websites exsist. Part of me wishes to be a fly on the wall, and part of me wouldn't want to listen to her screeds.

(I remember the time she accidentally discovered porn. She wanted to find one of those 'real baby' dolls. And searched for "real baby doll." And was traumatized for a week!)

[sarillia]

Maybe they have gotten too obsessed with it and consider it a false idol. I know some religious people who take that "no idols" thing very seriously and say anything can be an idol if you spend more time on it than your religion.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is what came to my mind as well.

[weaselbee]

That's what I was thinking. Some religious people wouldn't take to fandom because of how much time/feelings are spent on fantasy, rather than reality.

[elaminator]

Ooo, that might be it. (I've heard my dad mention it. TBH I usually tune him out and go back to tumblr, but hey, whatever works.)

It seems just as likely as OP wanting to avoid the abundance of porn and stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's this exactly. I used to wrestle with the fact that I often spend way more time thinking about characters then I do praying/meditating/worshipping. But then I learned to stop worrying and embrace the porny fanfic xP

I sometimes wonder if my remaining Christian friend is praying for my soul, but then I did see her flailing at Amanda Tapping at comic expo last year so idk. Technically being an artist isn't very cool in certain circles either (unless you're painting religious allegories) and I'm definitely not quitting that. It's a slippery slope.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here.

This is basically what I am asking myself/struggling with RN yeah. My church has never been against SF, quite the opposite, but that's not exactly a good thing, because of where it ended up leading a lot of people (including me) after some stuff happened. (Not to a good place.)

I don't read any fanfic, though, and my only fandom participation is here. So. IDK....

[(Anonymous)]

OP here.

DW ate my comment?? Anyway.

This is basically what I am asking myself RN, yeah. Not that my church was ever against SF (kind of the opposite, though fantasy was always considered a bit sketch), but that ended up not being a good thing, because reading SF led a lot of people (including me) down some not so good paths, after some stuff happened (sorry I can't be specific). Now, in the present, they are anti-books in general, but thankfully nobody listens to the people at the top anymore. :-P

I don't read fanfic though, and my only fandom participation is here. So. IDK....

[(Anonymous)]

Buddhists try to detach themselves from obsessions.

[(Anonymous)]

As the Orthodox Jewish commenter, I know a lot of the very cloistered Jewish community frowns on TV and Movie watching and going online. There's a constant push and pull on that. When I was a kid you couldn't even mention there was a TV in your house without worrying about being shunned, and my sister and all the girls in her 6th-grade class were asked to sign a contract keeping them from seeing movies (which stopped absolutely none of them from seeing Titanic repeatedly). Then another side of the community pushed back and got into how there's nothing in the literature restricting these things and standards relaxed somewhat. It's like a pendulum, swinging from super strict and back.

[ketita]

yo, you're not the only Orthodox Jewish commenter XP

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, another one! I've had the same experiences, though I know that within my community, there's become enough of a strong presence in either direction that no one's being ostracized either way, thankfully.

[nyxelestia]

The level of opinion of popular media tends to vary by religious/ethnic community. I know a family in which the mother doesn't just research books, shows, and movies before letting her daughter watch them - no, she has to read/watch them herself. Her daughter is like 12 and in the mother's opinion, this is the age she should have read and seen Harry Potter, instead of a few years earlier like it actually happened. She is rather convinced that by being this pervasive and controlling of what her daughter sees and reads, she'll spare the girl the influence of dark modern media, even though (she says) there is so little that is age appropriate anymore.

It's going to break her heart when she finds out the reason why the little girl seems to read/get through books so fast is that by the time the mom lets her read them, they're already a few years old to the girl. :P

[(Anonymous)]

Depends on the fandom. For example, I could think of a plethora of religious reasons someone might feel obliged to quit, say, Supernatural.

[(Anonymous)]

Depends on the fandom AND depends on the religion. I'm considered religious, and don't have a problem with Supernatural. It's TV theology, and not related to my theology.

That being said, I think that some of the fundamentalist types are more likely to have a problem with it.

[(Anonymous)]

True story: When I was fifteen, I quit The X-Files (including its fandom) because I feared I was starting to love it more than I loved God.

(I started watching again a year or two later. Also, I don't believe in God now.)

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

Probably a fandom that mentioned evolution once, and the tea party issued a fatwah against it.

[(Anonymous)]

Potentially the fandom involves witches or the supernatural?

I know I was nervous when I got into fandoms that involved the supernatural when I was little because of people who would be all, "Isn't that against your religion?"

But yeah, a big thing might be the porn stuff, like the other anon said

[al28894]

The porn, mostly. You can also make a few firestorms from the subject matter too. Never underestimate the stupidity of human beings and the need to stir shit up because of faith.

Late to comment, but..

[(Anonymous)]

I had a really good fandom friend in an anime fandom. She wrote slashfic, some pretty hardcore, for the two main characters - so did I, so we really got along. Thing is, she was a Muslim (and from a Muslim majority country). At first, religion was totally separate from fandom for her, and she was very LGBT tolerant. But she started worrying about her soul and stuff. She retired from the slash genre, but came back for awhile because she loved this particular pairing in the anime so much, she genderswitched. But then, that wasn't enough. She didn't want to write about characters having sex before marriage, so they had to be married in all of her fics (really weird for the characters in question). The anime featured "shinigami" and then she was worried that she was supporting false gods. Then the issue of anime being drawn, drawing pictures of humans was no good. Then music - music, she decided, was unIslamic. Finally, writing about non-Muslims might be showing God she encouraged people not to be Muslim, which of course wasn't true, so that was it.

She was my friend throughout most of this, but I'm gay myself, and when she'd unload all of this on me it really became too much. We got into a fight and drifted - sucks, because I really cared about her. But yep. True story of an extreme example of someone who quit fandom for religious reasons.

Re: Late to comment, but..

[(Anonymous)]

I remember reading this person's fics, and when she deleted all the slash. I'm sorry it got so extreme and that your friendship suffered. She was a great writer, and I hope she finds some balance in her life.