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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-21 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2576 ]


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If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Why is it so common to unironically claim this.

as though there's a solution to being bald, short, and small dicked, or a male birth control pill.

But no, clearly it's a medical conspiracy by teh patriarchy.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't care.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
tbf it is a little ridiculous if you look at the amount of money spent on things like viagra. i think that's where 90% of that comes from.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
But there are a lot of 'solutions' to those problems and lots of money and time put into 'curing' them. And in a lot of ways they're actually taken a lot more seriously than a lot of diseases or issues that are purely female.

I mean it's not a conspiracy, it's just a result of the patriarchy. I'm thinking though that you don't really care and just want to start wank. Also that you might not understand what exactly people mean when they talk about the patriarchy.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't there a male birth control pill in development?

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
There have been several in development over the years but a lot of the men who take place in the trials complain about the side effects (which are mostly the same ones that women already deal with)

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but it's a lot more complicated to stop conception from the male end, so it's still a work in progress.

I mean, with females, you only have to protect one egg, males you have to stop millions/billions (cant remwmber exacy numver) of sperm. It's complicated.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Even better than a pill, they're working on (and if I understand correctly, already have in India) a gel that's injected that keeps a man infertile, yet can be flushed out at a later time to restore fertility.

Why the hell this is not more commonly known about is beyond me.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
women can go bald, be short, and even have small dicks....though id assume most of them have no problem with that. they could probably come up with male birth control but fuck, like they'd bother when they can keep us uterus owners in charge of that lol.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard this one.

The closest I have heard is probably the one about how if men could get pregnant, birth control would be free and abortion clinics would be everywhere, but I always take it too seriously and get caught up in thinking how if men could get pregnant, the world and its gender roles would have grown into something so drastically different from the one we're in now that you couldn't be sure of anything about it.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I don't know what OP is talking about, but I've heard the "if men could be pregnant, abortion would be 100% legal". Which may be true. But OP sounds a bit paranoid.
starphotographs: ...I'm not that bad, though. And I don't even light things on fire! Well, not regularly... (Izaya (devious))

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

[personal profile] starphotographs 2014-01-22 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
If men could get pregnant... We're not really talking about men as such anymore, are we? :P

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I think the hypothetical situation works much better if you posit that male pregnancy is something spontaneous. Like, if tomorrow men suddenly gained the ability to carry and give birth. I do think the political landscape surrounding contraceptives and abortion would be very different, given that the majority of policy makers are men.

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Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

[personal profile] blunderbuss 2014-01-22 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Which would be a really neat idea for an alternate history story, really.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Idiots think that. Just look at the amount of money given to breast cancer research as opposed to prostate cancer (which is MUCH deadlier).

Or the free health care women can get.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Go away.
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Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

[personal profile] mechanosapience 2014-01-22 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
On the one hand, there is some truth to the whole 'if men got pregnant...' grumblng, but the thing about ED drugs is that sildenafil, which is the active ingredient in Viagra, was initially developed as a treatment for high blood pressure. It was only after it had gotten to Phase I trials (the first step in human testing) did its potential as a treatment for ED become apparent. The other thing to realize is that before Viagra, the treatment options for ED were alprastadil--which is either inserted into the urethra as a suppository (think sounding) or injected directly into the penis--penis pumps, or surgically implanting rods or an inflatable device into the penis. None of these were particularly pleasant treatments.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
There are treatments for baldness and surgeries for penis lengthening.* There's no male birth control pill yet not because of some imaginary reverse sexism thing but because men generally don't view birth control as a positive thing they want.


* And the reason for a lack of a "solution" to having a small dick is because there is only so much technology can do, not because there's no such thing as the patriarchy.
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Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

[personal profile] caerbannog 2014-01-22 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Male birth control pills have been around for years...

The hair regrowth formula for women is half the strength as it is for men, even though that means its ineffective (and doctors prescribe the men regrowth formulas anyway).

I wasn't aware height was a disease and no idea what short dicks could be comparable to on a woman.
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Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-01-22 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I thought that last one was obvious. Birth control is a woman's problem and responsibility dontcha know!

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
All irony aside, this isn't entirely untrue? There are at least a few health concerns are marketed towards men even when they affect both sexes (see: heart attack signs being entirely different for men and women but you probably know the male ones).
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Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-01-22 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think one of the issues is that for many diseases and drug trials, men have been the test group rather than more diverse populations. So, for example, although this is changing, much of the research into heart disease focused on men rather than women. Women actually experience heart attacks much differently than men a lot of the time and sometimes don't realize they are having them because they don't have the classic male heart attack symptoms of chest pain and shooting pain down the left arm. This is the same issue facing pediatric and adolescent medicine; we have lots of drug trials for how certain drugs affect adults but less info on how they affect children and adolescents even though the drugs are sometimes prescribed for those populations.
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Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

[personal profile] tamabonotchi 2014-01-22 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
How about how Viagra is readily available and covered by most insurers but birth control is such a controversial issue employers won't give their employees the opportunity to get it?
Viagra is seen as normal with all of its stupid commercials, but birth control is looked down upon by conservatives.
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Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

[personal profile] squeakycat 2014-01-22 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
1. There is a solution to being bald - more than one, in fact.
2. Being short isn't a disease.
3. They are working on one, but it's taking a long time and going in fits and starts for various reasons [as I understand it.]

and 4. I've only heard this said about pregnancy and there is, frankly, truth to it in that particularly case. Laws regarding abortion and women's reproductive health would be vastly different if policy makers [of whom the majority are male] could get pregnant.

Re: If 'disease' effected teh menz it's be cured by now!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
So am I allowed to call this an MRA post?

This is clearly a moron MRA, and I'm officially calling them on it, but I just fucking bet you someone comes along and insults me for it.