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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-11 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2597 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2597 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-11 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of disturbed that you generally just hate any character that's female.

Why? And what are you reading?
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-02-12 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure they are saying they hate all female characters, but rather that this genre has a tendency to create far more one/two dimensional females that lack substance, which this person immediately hates in a character, and thus, the female being written as one.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I'm hoping that that's it. It's kind of why I'd like to know what they're reading, because there are some great female characters in the genre (apart from those in ASoIaF), and it sucks that they seem to be missing them.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
You're really reaching here. The secret-maker's exact words are "basically I usually loathe female characters." Nowhere do they specify "female characters in fantasy." There's no reason to assume that fantasy is what they mostly read, either, since ASOIAF tends to be touted as "fantasy for people who don't read fantasy."
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-02-12 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it's that this secret wasn't the best worded or it's what you said.

But considering the general male to female ratio here... my first instinct isn't misogyny.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
my first instinct isn't misogyny

how shocking

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
my first instinct isn't misogyny.
lol

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. It's the same old bullshit, the usual truckload of excuses. Mary Sue! Too perfect--OR--too bitchy! NOT WHOM I'D LIKE TO FUCK!

Plus ca change, plus la meme chose. Fandom hate female characters. They fucking suck.
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[personal profile] caerbannog 2014-02-12 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
Seems to be most genres these days...well, unless it's a teen romance and even then it will get shit on.

/laments over science fiction
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-02-12 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
This. My favorite ASOIAF characters are all women, but someone hating all other female characters bugs me.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I've never liked reading female characters either. Just doesn't interest me much. I think I got turned off at a young age when every single female character, in the end, turned out to be beautiful even if they were introduced as plain. Since I'm not the most attractive nut on the tree I suppose I just couldn't identify and I always felt betrayed somehow that only pretty people can have adventures. Since I'm not a guy, I don't care much about how they look I suppose and can enjoy them for themselves.

Too late now to change my ways.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Not really, no.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me, but...you don't like reading female characters because they might be prettier than you?

For the love of...

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

OP was bothered by the apparent message that "only pretty people can have adventures" or are worth writing about.

Reading comprehension isn't really your strong suit, is it?
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-02-12 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Are you Reading Comprehension Anon now?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Are you upset that someone is stealing your shtick?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
But she doesn't hate all pretty characters. She only hates pretty female characters. And she hates them because they're prettier than she is.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
NO hate involved. Just no interest. I'd like to read about someone like me.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Reminds me of those girls who call every pretty feminist they see a slut.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
What is this? Prettiness privilege or something? Way to be understanding DB.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
For the love of fuck, learn to read.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a tall (really tall, over six feet), athletic gal who used to be overweight. I'm not pretty nor charismatic. I love reading about female characters like me, but most of the female protagonist I find are this tiny, fragile, beautiful person. You now what? I don't hate those characters, and reading about them didn't turn me off of every single female character ever.

I think you got serious issues, both with self-esteem and internalised misogyny. I really suggest you seek counselling.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
If she was black and you told her to get over wishing that every character she read about wasn't white so she could have someone to identify with there would be a different reaction. There is so much shaming of people who are unattractive it's sad.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
And there's shaming of people who aren't smart, or who misunderstand something that they've read ("lol lol reading comprehension lol lol"), or who smell weird, or who are untalented, etc etc.

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OH NO YOU DIDN'T just equate one person's insecurity issues with racism. Hmmm, let me guess which race you are.

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