[ SECRET POST #2610 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2610 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies]


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03.
[Twin Peaks]


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04.
[DC Comics, Strix and Batgirl]


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05.
[my mad fat diary]


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06.
[Sekai Seifuku]


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07.
[Lindsey Stirling]


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08.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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09.
[Attack on Titan]


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10.
[How to Train Your Dragon]


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11.
[Figure Skating]


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12.
[A Wild Endeavour]


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13.
[American Horror Story]


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14.
[The Americans]

















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 061 secrets from Secret Submission Post #372.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[logicbutton]

Well, now that that's all settled, let's talk about Ace Attorney.

[pengychan]

ACE ATTORNEY!!!!11!!oneone11!
*foams at mouth*

A-hem. Yes, I quite enjoy the series.
(So what are your thoughts about yaoi Dual Destinies?)

[logicbutton]

omggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

I loved the absolute shit out of it. It had the tone of the first three games while still retaining everything I liked about AJ, and even though it had more specialized mechanics than any other game in the series, I thought it felt organic and not gimmicky at all. The music was wonderful in general, but Blackquill's theme and the Mood Matrix theme are two of my favorite AA songs ever. Athena and Blackquill themselves are awesome. Also, Phoenix and Edgeworth are clearly fucking.

The only thing missing was Franziska.

[SPOILERS FOR DUAL DESTINIES]

[pengychan]

I loved it, too! I didn't start with the highest hopes (I really didn't like AJ because... several reasons), but I was pleasantly surprised. I really liked it, liked the new characters (ATHENA!) and loved the way recurring characters were handled (Apollo got a backstory! And goals! And a subplot of his own!).
And yeah, I don't even ship P/E, but the shipping potential is blatant. XD Edgeworth went to Trucy's magic show and that's so cute I just can't.

Franziska should have been there just so that she could meet Aura. XD
I missed Maya a bit, too, but I can see why they couldn't just cram her in. I really liked her letter, though, and Pearl's mention that she's coming to visit soon after the DLC case. It was a nice touch.

As for the music, for me it's a tie between Blackquill's theme and the Phantom's.
I also really liked the twist at the end. I was caught completely by surprise. I didn't even LIKE Fulbright while playing, but after finding out the truth I felt so, so bad for him. Playing the extra case while knowing it was kind of weird. It was all "aww, look at that cutie-- oh wait, he's dead and that's actually the Phantom-- BUT LOOK AT THAT CUTIE!"

Re: [SPOILERS FOR DUAL DESTINIES]

[logicbutton]

Aww, Maya's letter. I had been hoping there was a chance she would make an appearance, but that letter just made me miss her more. Gumshoe also. For most of the game I was all, "Where's Gumshoe. Why isn't the detective Gumshoe. Why isn't the detective Ema." Of course, at the end, I thought, "MAYBE I'M GLAD IT WASN'T GUMSHOE OR EMA."

The funny thing about that was, I guessed at Fulbright's FIRST APPEARANCE that he was a bad guy.* But then when we found out what the deal was, I got really sad about him too. Because, if the real Fulbright was really like that? :(

It is my headcanon that Franziska and Simon become best friends after Dual Destinies, so I hope she would meet Aura. She would LOVE Aura.

*It was because he had peaked lapels. I once wrote an academic paper on the semiotics of peaked lapels and now I see it everywhere; the upshot is that peaked lapels in visual media tend to indicate villains. This is played extremely straight in Ace Attorney.

Re: [SPOILERS FOR DUAL DESTINIES]

[pengychan]

Yeah, it was for the best that it wasn't Gumshoe. XD Gumshoe is one of the reasons why I didn't really like Fulbright. I mean, we already had a bumbling detective, why should we need a new one that only seemed 100% more annoying?
Of course I saw why later. Oh yes I did.

Also, the way you realized "Fulbright" was the big bad is pretty interesting and hilarious at the same time. XD And yeah, I felt bad for him. I'm pretty sure he really WAS the way the Phantom depicted him (he had to be accurate to steal his identity without anyone noticing anything odd), and that makes everything even sadder. He didn't deserve to die.
As for the Phantom, he's just as sad. Really. One of the most pitiful characters in the whole series.

I APPROVE OF THAT HEADCANON.

SPOILERS

[funyarinpainahat]

Oh man, the game revived the P/E shipper in me, big time. I honestly just consider it canon at this point.

The only thing that disappointed me about DD was that during the entire phantom reveal, my brain was screaming "Kristoph...KrisTOPH...KRISTOPH"

And then nothing.

Re: SPOILERS

[pengychan]

I didn't really like Kristoph so I can't say I hoped it would turn out to be him, but didn't we get a nice subtle reference to him when Phoenix sees Athena's black Psyche-locks?
(I kinda wish Kristoph's locks were explained at some point. It was the only thing about him I really found interesting, and they were just forgotten about.)

Re: SPOILERS

[logicbutton]

Right? I was trying to figure that out, but only ended up with more questions. What is it about Kristoph's crimes that's locked in his subconscious? The only idea I've got is that he hasn't admitted to himself that maybe his inability to get over being fired by Zak Gramarye had more to do with him than it did to do with Zak or Phoenix. I don't find that explanation completely satisfactory, though.

Re: SPOILERS

[logicbutton]

Wasn't it weird that Kristoph really didn't come up at all in the whole game? It was like they were retconning AJ away entirely, even though Apollo and Trucy and Klavier were right there.

Yeah, I'm fairly sure the writers and/or translators are putting in Phoenix/Edgeworth stuff on purpose now. Maybe it's queerbaiting, but I don't even care. I mean, "(This immense tension between us... It's like we're picking up right where we left off.)"? "Don't lecture ME on matters of the heart, Edgeworth!"? The argument over who has the better eye for aesthetics??? Having them make out onscreen could hardly be less subtle.

[sarillia]

My friend just bought me the first game as a present and I'm excited to get into this series. I've been curious for a while because I have a friend who really likes it. But unfortunately I can't really say anything about it yet since I know nothing.

[pengychan]

Haha, sounds a lot like the way I got into the series - a friend bought me the first game and a Nintendo DS so that I could play it. She claims it was a plot from her part to get me into writing AA fanfic, and it certainly worked. XD

Anyway, I fell in love with the first game and I was off to get the whole series right after I finished it. Hope it will be the same for you, it's really a great series.

[logicbutton]

AAAH I am so excited for you! I hope you like it; it's extremely silly and takes a couple cases to hit its stride, but once that happens it just gets better and better.

My strongest memory of playing the first game for the first time is being surprised by how many characters there were. The only ones I knew of were Phoenix and Edgeworth, and I'd heard the name Gumshoe once or twice, but that was it. Spoiler alert: there are others.

[sarillia]

I know of a couple female ones because of my friend but other than that I'm in the same boat as you were.

[pengychan]

I'm sure you're going to love "meeting" the characters. The cast is one of the series' strongest points. I can think of very few characters I didn't like at all and almost all of them were in AJ.

[cloud_riven]

I am excited for Shu Takumi's AA project, although I'm hoping it's the same as the DD team's AA project too, and that it's GS6.

I have mixed feelings about DD. I felt it was very formulaic, despite aiming for twist after twist, as well as overly holding the player's hand to the point it may as well have been a visual novel rather than call itself a game. On top of other things like forced cameos, AJ retcons, and the lame exposition via telling, rather than showing (Clay, Athena's backstory, Apollo's pov in the last case, Pearl not actually interacting with the people Phoenix claims she does, etc.). /ljpost

Yet the game was still really enjoyable. It was even the funniest in the series for me. The third case for instance is my "worst case ever," but also the one to keep making me laugh at loud whenever the weird motivations and poorly written/acted cheese took a backseat to the slapstick. The fail options for Athena's statue performance? Holy shit my sides. Means creepy clay hair and his chalkboard? Robin's manly screaming and pot throwing? The defense is not ready to rock? Fulbright and Athena's exchange from afar? I need to breathe gdi—

And I'm not going to pretend that the twist of the last case wasn't very good for me either. I was so torn because I really liked Fulbright, and I so wanted him to be a real addition to the cast. Yeah, Athena and Simon are okay, but Fulbright was the one main supporting character that endeared me to the game. Of the detectives, you have Gumshoe who submits to every prosecutor, Ema who openly snarks the prosecutor she's paired with, and Fulbright who isn't phased by anything. Good twist though ♥

[logicbutton]

I can't agree that it was formulaic - at least, not to the point it bothered me, and although I did think there was more hand-holding than necessary, I didn't mind not having to go through every single location with a fine-toothed comb and present every single piece of evidence to every single person whenever I wasn't sure what to do next. But man, I am right there with you on the third case - it was SO FUNNY. Everything you mention, spot on.

[cloud_riven]

I made the mistake of setting my expectations too high after so many years, which is probably why I'm so critical of it.

Aw, but I miss clicking on everything. Not so much to spend unneeded time re-checking spots, but for the extra dialogue between the lawyer and their assistant. For me it's the added touch that gives you a better feel between them and the lawyer's inner dialogue.

I will go through Hugh's odd cry so many times just for the funny.

[logicbutton]

That is true; I was definitely annoyed that we couldn't examine the office. Now how are we supposed to know what Athena thinks of Trucy's plastic spaghetti?!?

[pengychan]

Case 3 was the funniest thing in history of everything ever. Means' breakdown is easily the funniest in the whole series yet, in my opinion.

[cloud_riven]

And the court audience got involved omg it was wonderful. I felt so vindicated for Athena. there was righteous laughter

[pengychan]

Also, hug a corner. HUG A CORNER.
I died there.

[othellia]

I'm so used to your icon, I actually forgot it was from Ace Attorney. *hides*

[logicbutton]

I'm so used to my icon and my username that even though I don't forget where they're from, I do forget what a single-minded nut I must look like whenever I go on one of my not-infrequent Ace Attorney evangelism binges. I like other things, too, I swear!

[(Anonymous)]

Logic button.

Duh. Of course that's from the Edgeworth game. How did I not see that before? The concept of Edgeworth's magical power of logic was hilarious. *pompous forehead tapping ensues*