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Can I ask why you decided to jump in now, when WoW is on its way out? Or is that way?

Oh? Is it really dying?

Last year they lost just over half their revenue in 7 months. The game has been around for a decade, the lion's share of the historical playerbase has moved on, the subscription model is effectively dead (and that's why Elder Scrolls Online is doomed -- well, that and it doesn't seem to be very good anyway) and the traditional MMO (which WoW exemplifies) is in decline in favour of hybrid games (such as F2P MMOFPS games like Team Fortress 2 or the vaporware Survarium) and MOBAs.

Meh. I expect it will hold steady at 6-7 million for quite a long time.

It was at 12 million just a couple years ago. Going from that to 7.8 million is a pretty sharp drop for an MMO of WoW's age and popularity.

I'm sure there'll be a good collection of hard-core players who won't budge, and of course there's always gold farmers, but I don't expect it to be above 5 million by this time next year.

Which is still much larger than any other MMO out there except League of Legends (which is not really an MMO). Five million isn't exactly small change.

Yeah, but that's my point. I don't think subscriber numbers translate to success anymore. WoW is very old and a lot of money has gone into maintaining it; and I do think it's going to be hemorrhaging players over the next few years, even if they do switch to F2P. Activision is probably going to be giving it the hairy eyeball very soon if they're not doing so already.

No it's not. EVERYONE thinks its about it about to die, but it keeps coming back. With Warlods of Drzaenor coming in and the creators mentioning more expacs in the future, yeah no. WoW is nowhere near dying.

You same damn people said the same thing about SWTOR, but it's raking in cash and still going.

just now noticed this and too late to edit, whoops

I didn't really do any gaming until last year, so I never got into it before. When I found out I could try it for free I figured I might as well. I'm just looking for something entertaining, so I wasn't too concerned about current popularity. Is there something you would recommend instead?

Well, as I said to the anon above, the traditional MMO is on its way out.

It's not too late to get into WoW, but don't expect to spend a long time with it; I suspect they'll keep it going as long as it can until the hassle of running it begins to outstrip the profit. I really don't expect it to last more than a couple years -- even if they switch to microtransactions like they're talking about I think we're seeing the game's twilight years. It doesn't help that what's left of the fanbase, though very loyal, tends towards the creepy -- WoW at its peak had a very diverse playerbase, but as most of them have moved on, what's left tend to be the dregs. So be warned going in.

May I suggest Guild Wars? They're always having free trial periods so you could check it out free, and then it's just buy to play - no subscription. It's not a perfect game but I have a lot of fun with it.

I've been interested in Guild Wars (watched my friend play a couple times in college) but I hesitated at the price when I wasn't sure if I would like it. So they just run a trial period every so often? I'll have to look out for that.

Yes, keep an eye out! Usually it's a 3-day weekend free trial. Rumoured to be one in March I think, but nothing concrete yet.

DA

They do - and the price is a one time thing, no fees after that [unless you decide to change servers or something, and even there you can get the same basic thing without actually having to do that.]

But I suspect that the other anon actually means Guild Wars 2 since that came out a year or two ago and is pretty awesome. Just, if you do play it in trail, don't expect it to play exactly like other mmos since some things [like their quests for example] are set up a little different and it throws people a bit at first.

They do indeed, and as far as server I would recommend Tarnished Coast; I have NEVER seen such a friendly server and general chat in ANY game I have played. We always know when people are guesting in the high level zones (to farm) because the chat gets to a point where it has to be turned off. (I would mention that it can be a bit of a pain to get on TC; my gf's stepdaughter took a couple days before she was able to get in because it was full but it is really, really worth it. My impressions of other servers have... been pretty awful.)

I've heard very nice things about TC, and they're not assholes in WvW so that's always nice. ;) Another good server is Stormbluff Isle. Not perfect but assholes get called out in chat pretty regularly and it's generally a friendly mid-size server. Not huge, but events are never empty.

Yup, I've actually done WVW on TC and normally I HATE PVP because of the attitude. Folks... being nice... in PVP? AMG.

Nice to have a rec for a server that's also good! I love TC but it can be difficult to get onto, which makes it annoying if you're trying to catch a free weekend.

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