[ SECRET POST #2623 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2623 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 064 secrets from Secret Submission Post #375.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the outcry of (usually very old) authors against fanfiction is so weird. It's existed pretty much since stories were written. And they pick and choose their battles. If I write a Romeo and Juliet fanfiction, it's cool and totally okay. I can even publish it. But if I write an Interview with a Vampire fanfic, whatshername flips shit. I'm not saying copyright shouldn't exist, and I don't think people should make money off of fanworks if an author is still making money (obviously irrelevant in the case of Shakespeare) but the argument is usually "do original stuff, you lazy!" and it's terribly pick and choosey.

Plus, I find any author who feels their precious characters and world is desecrated by fanfiction to be obnoxious and ridiculously insecure. I think it's usually a matter of old people not understanding fan culture, but if I ever wrote something that inspired people enough to write fanfiction for, that'd be like, the ultimate compliment.

[(Anonymous)]

it's usually a matter of old people not understanding fan culture

*raises eyebrow*

[(Anonymous)]

Sup? Come at me bro

da

[(Anonymous)]

I'm fifty and cut my writing teeth on fanfic--for years!--before I felt comfortable enough in my own style to write original fiction. If someone wrote slash hatesex between the hero and villain in my novel, I would feel like I've arrived.

I'm pretty sure age has nothing to do with "understanding fan culture." Elitism, however, I will not argue with. Because how dare the plebes sully My Precious with their cooties.

[(Anonymous)]

Let me guess, you think fandom started with Tumblr.

Okay, okay, Livejournal. But no further back.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who aspires to be a published author, I look FORWARD to the fanworks, both written and drawn and otherwise. That alone I will hold as as success.

If it ever happens.

[(Anonymous)]

If I was a published author whose work had a fandom I would have so much fun trolling everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

da (first anon)

I'd write fanfiction of my own stuff, under a different name. like, porny stuff that I was afraid to put into the actual story. I'd create several aliases to try to start crazy ship wars, and write essays about the hidden, complex meaning in each of my book's scenes.

...yeah, when I get published (ahem) the fandom will be alive and awesome. of course, it'll only be me and my aliases but...

[(Anonymous)]

Will you be so enthusiastic when they profit from their fanworks, as this secret is alluding to?

[(Anonymous)]

I... actually wouldn't mind that much. What I admit would make me mad is if a bunch of people (enough to impact profits) were ONLY buying the fanworks and not legally obtaining my original work?

[(Anonymous)]

*high-fives* I wish you all the luck in the world.

[(Anonymous)]

A friend wrote fanfic of my first published novel, and I couldn't stop grinning about it!

[(Anonymous)]

THIS

Making money off of something that someone wrote who is still alive and collecting royalties is one thing, but free fanfiction? Get over yourselves. I'll never buy one of your books/movies/television shows if you have an issue with it.

[ex_mek82]

But if I write an Interview with a Vampire fanfic, whatshername flips shit.

IMHO, Anne Rice lost every single inch of ground she had on the "I hate fan fic" issue when she wrote what is essentially Bible fan fic several years ago (The "Christ the Lord" stories, for anyone curious).

[(Anonymous)]

Thisssssss so much this. (Though I would argue it was more Catholic fanfic than Bible fanfic.)

[(Anonymous)]

Same diff. Still essentially fanfic.

[ex_mek82]

Yeah, now that you mention it, you're right: it's more Catholic fan fic than anything else.

(To be fair, it appears Anne Rice has softened her stance on fan fic in the last couple years, if what's said on her Fanlore article is true. I have to wonder if being called out for her hypocrisy over the years since the 'Christ the Lord' books came out had anything to do with it)

[blueonblue]

It's because fanfic writers interrogate her text from the wrong perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

IA. It was rather silly of her to throw a tantrum in the first place when she's writing about creatures lifted from the folklore of eastern europe and popularized by authors like Bram Stoker.

[(Anonymous)]

" I think it's usually a matter of old people not understanding fan culture..."

Oh, come on. Who do you think was involved in fandom before that was even a term? Who was publishing 'zines and running listservs or lurking on Usenet for their Star Trek fanfiction long before there was FFnet, LJ, AO3 or Tumblr?

[(Anonymous)]

Nayrt

Adding on to early fan culture love! (plus any excuse to dig up and spread old-school cosplay pics):

http://www.fiawol.org.uk/fanstuff/THEN%20Archive/cosplay/cos01.htm

[(Anonymous)]

THIS. I was going to fandom conventions when I was little. My dad sold SF pulps and zines from the late fifties. (I remember one of them had a piece by a young squab named Roger Ebert :-)

[(Anonymous)]

I really don't understand why people think fandom is a new concept that can only be grasped by people under 25. Please look up The Iliad and Odyssey, where people wrote long epic fanfiction about their own religion. Then look up The Aeneid where Virgil wrote a spin-off tale based on Homer's work. Look up "Baker Street Irregulars". Hint: the original members are so old they're dead and the founder of that official (think how many non-official fans there were before that date!) was born in 1890. Also realize that Star Trek: TOS was aired in the 1960s and that the people who were in fandom then are probably at least in their 60s or older now.

Then come back and explain to everyone again how old people don't get fan culture.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt, but for some reason "so old they're dead" made me burst out laughing.

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom isn't new by any means, but I don't think it can be ignored how the Internet made fandom bigger and easier, and more "mainstream" if you will. There was always fanfiction, sure, but the Internet made culture where fanfiction is incredibly accessible, and easier to write and distribute. Fandom existed before the 90s, of course. But I think it's a stretch to make a simple comparison to post-Internet fandom.