[ SECRET POST #2628 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2628 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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08. [SPOILERS for The Wayfarer Redemption series/Sinner]
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11. [WARNING for rape/abuse/etc (unmarked by OP, but I'd assume it applies)]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #375.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

(frozen comment) Re: da

[scrubber]

Are you one of those people that barks at stella_down every time she tries to help someone with her professional experience?

(frozen comment) Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

"Professional experience?" Is that what they're calling being a self-medicating drunk now?

(frozen comment) Re: da

[scrubber]

You see, there are so many responses to this, so I'm just gonna give you a kind of sample platter.

Well this is a dramatic confession. I'll take that as a yes.

Sorry your liberal arts degree isn't giving you more of an edge when you give terrible advice to mentally ill people over the internet.

Yeah, I mean, why should Stella get to give advice like a giant while the rest of us try not to get smushed under her prescription pad? What's so great about Stella? You're just as cute as Stella. You're totally just as smart as Stella. I'm sure people like you just as much as they like Stella. And when did it become okay for someone to just give ADVICE to anons, huh? Because that's NOT what FS is about, we should totally just STAB STELLA.

(frozen comment) Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Hi charsmonster

(frozen comment) Re: da

[scrubber]

I don't think you know chardmonster as well as you think you do, mate.

(frozen comment) Re: da

[insanenoodlyguy]

Yeah see, she's pretty much the type that'd mock that idiotic homeless idea. Also that person isn't nearly snarky enough.

Re: da

[nyxelestia]

NAYRT, but the AYRT does have a point. We don't know where the Secret OP lives or what their situation is, and while there is a good chance that counseling is available to them, it might either have not helped or it might not be something available to them.

"Just pick and leave" wouldn't be my own first suggestion to someone suicidal, but I'd hardly dismiss it as an option given the situations some of these people might very well be living in.

Re: da

[scrubber]

I'd say in most situations it's pretty bad, short-sighted advice. If the problem is the OP, it sounds like it, then how will going somewhere else help? It will probably be just a band-aid.

Unless you are some specific subset of person, going some random place with no money, plans, or resources and embracing homelessness will almost definitely not help.

Re: da

[nyxelestia]

And OP might be that specific subset of person? Everyone else - including myself - is mostly suggesting hotlines to the secret OP, counseling, etc. What the AYRT was offering was another alternative if counseling isn't available, or if OP already sought counseling and it didn't help.

It might be like putting a band-aid on a bullet wound, sure, but a band-aid sure as hell beats doing nothing if you've got nothing else on hand.

Re: da

[scrubber]

Yeah sorry, "specific subset of person" was supposed to indicate "people who aren't suicidally depressed"+"people who can embrace temporary distraction".

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this being terrible advice.

Re: da

[nyxelestia]

If you say so, but then I do ask this: let's say secret OP tried to get counseling and none of the ones they have access to helped them at all. And there is no one in their life they can talk to, and their current life situation is the cause of their suicidal feelings in the first place. What would you suggest to them then?

Yeah, just packing up and winging it is a terrible thing to do...but if you are already on the verge of suicide with absolutely nothing else having helped and no where else to go, then really, at that point, what have you got to lose?

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the original anon, and this is basically what I'm saying. I'm not actually suggesting that homelessness is what OP should be gunning towards. Ideally, they could set themselves up somewhere else with little hassle. I was just bringing up the thought that if they ARE scared of becoming homeless, depending on where you are or what you're doing, it's not all that bad.

Like I said, being homeless wasn't some sort of nirvana for me, but it did actually give me some amount of peace in ways I didn't expect.

I wouldn't advocate packing up and leaving unless it was the only option they felt they had. But sometimes shedding the skin of your old life is the only thing you can do. Even the most effective.

I was just trying to suggest something they might not have considered, because I assume they would have been told at some point about hotlines and counselling, which are much more ideal.

Re: da

[insanenoodlyguy]

I do believe you are trying to be helpful, but this advice is of the sort that can backfire catastrophically

Re: da

[chardmonster]

Scrubber, many a person has been psychologically helped by riding the rails and whitewashing fences for biscuits. Stop being so insensitive.

Re: da

[scrubber]

I know, I know. OP needs to find themselves through the beauty of nature and the tweeness of small-town folk philosophy.

Just like Christopher McCandless! As long as they avoid Alaska everything should be fine.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

So this particular advice doesn't work for you - why do you have to come in here and be an ass about it? OP and Anon that suggested it might very well be in that specific subset of people.

And it might be a band-aid or a stop-gap measure but that doesn't mean it's not helpful. Band-aids are helpful in their own way.

Re: da

[scrubber]

And that's fine, but please, avoid Alaska.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

+1

cutting most of my ties and moving to another country was exactly what pushed me from "extreme depression" to "actively planning fool-proof suicide methods." at the time it felt like I was finally taking meaningful action.

then again, if OP's situation is abusive family or other abusive social situation, it might be helpful to get away. maybe stay with a reliable friend if that's feasible? like you said, we don't know the situation

Re: da

[arcadiaego]

I picked up and left, and it's probably while I'm alive. I'm not going to *tell* the OP to do that, but neither did the person who left the comment.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

No, I don't even know what you're referencing actually. Guess I don't come here often enough.

But there are a lot of people out there that cannot get help. It's good advice to seek counseling if you are able to, but to think that everyone has that option is foolish.

And as for the packing up and removing yourself from the situation/place, I honestly don't think it's bad advice for certain people. I did it and it helped me enormously. It certainly didn't solve all my issues, but it brought me a small amount of peace and a great amount of perspective and has been a huge reason why I'm still here today.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Except that for someone not thinking clearly, that could be the FIRST thing they do rather than the LAST. And like I said upthread, homelessness has a high mortality rate.

It's a fucking irresponsible thing to advise to someone you don't know well.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Did the original anon say that the first step to curing depression was to run away and be homeless? No. No they did not. They presented it as ONE POSSIBLE option if others were not working out, and said they were speaking from personal experience.

Jesus christ people in this thread are being fucking ridiculous. You have others mocking and belittling, but it's the one random suggestion that gets these idiots up in frothing rage.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Except that for someone not thinking clearly, RUNNING AWAY could be the FIRST thing they do rather than the LAST.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

It's a bad suggestion that could result in someone dying. I don't see how it's idiotic or ridiculous for people to be arguing against it.

Also, the mocking and belittling threads had been (rightfully) frozen by this time. Generally speaking on this comm, when a thread gets frozen, continuing to reference what happened in it just gets more threads frozen.