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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-20 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2634 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2634 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Lady Gaga]


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[free!, attack on titan]


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(Panic! at the Disco)


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[Anarky]


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(Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.)


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[Frozen]













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(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
The goddamned telephone book is less painful to read than actually watching Free!. Are you really that surprised?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
What are you even talking about? I think you misinterpreted the secret.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
That it's not surprising that the fic for a show as terrible as Free! would be better than the fic for a show as good as SnK. Shows that are total shit tend to have better fic as a rule because you don't need a lot of skill as a writer to produce something passable when you're given characters and a "plot" that are one-trick ponies. Writing something good for a show with complex characters and an intricate plot and world is a hell of a lot harder.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Ahahahahahahahahahaha your perception of SnK's quality is incredibly skewed. You have to be high to think the characters are complex. I like them but they're mostly just one dimensional plot devices. They have like one defining character trait each. Even the Free characters are more complex and have more development.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't think so. SnK's characters do more besides whine about how much they miss swimming with their childhood crushes, and they are forced to either develop or die.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell, a good chunk of them develop and then die anyway.

Free! is just a hot mess of every shitty faux-gay sports anime trope ever, turned up to eleven.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes because every character in Free is Rin. Also if we're simplifying it to an absurd degree then all the SnK characters do is cry about how there's no hope and they're all going to die.

You seriously sound like some 15 year old pseudo intellectual who's convinced that you're more mature than everyone else because you like something with lots of violence and death.

Dislike Free all you want, I doubt anyone's going to argue that it's a masterpiece or anything, but get the fuck off your high horse about SnK.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of Erwin being awesome.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
you sound bitter anon

also you must have really interesting telephone books

or live in a country so backwards as to still need them

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm bitter because I'm tired of seeing untagged and mistagged fansquee for this crap all over my Tumblr dash, yes. If you're into a crap show? Fine, I don't care. Just tag your shit correctly so the rest of us can TS it, please.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I was actually really surprised by how much I genuinely enjoyed Free!. I thought it was a fun, cute show that doesn't take itself too seriously and pokes a bit of fun at other sports anime (there are a lot of sports anime where it's considered natural for the character's to be completely obsessed with their sport and treat competitions as life or death. In Free, Rin's ultra competitiveness is shown to be a pretty severe character flaw that caused him to fuck up most of his personal relationships. And other people in the show find Haru's obsession with water to be a bit over the top, even if they do humor him. It's a fun show nonny!)

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
*characters not character's

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I forced myself through the first three episodes of it and I'm convinced the only people who like it are horny teenage girls (or people with the brains of horny teenage girls). Because it is the most insipid mess of a show I've seen since Prince of Tennis.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
da

Jesus, lighten up

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That's how Kyoanus shows are. Only people watching them are brainless otaku (and fujoshi in Free).

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. It's moeshit for girls.

(OP)

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was my experience as well. I went in expecting absolutely nothing, I just wanted something light and uncomplicated for a change, and I was genuinely surprised by how much I enjoyed it. You're right that the show doesn't take itself seriously, which I appreciate, because it doesn't try to pretend that it's something it's not, and the characters are actually compelling beyond the usual anime stereotypes.

The secret might be a bit misleading and give the impression that I don't actually like Free!, which isn't true at all. It's just that Free! is a cute sports anime that could be the epitome of the fandom darling high school AU (which, while totally fine, isn't that interesting in terms of setting), and SnK has so much fascinating worldbuilding going on (on top of characters who might not be very fleshed out but have lots of potential nonetheless) that the possibilities for interesting fic seemed endless to me and I expected amazing fic. I mean, it's a grim, postapocalyptic past/future! There's a war going on! The enemy is terrifying and nigh invincible! We struggle not to give in to despair! Love in the time of war, when we know we could die at any time! Frantic, desperate people running out of time! So much potential for angst, which fandom loves! And then I actually started reading. Suffice to say, that was not the case.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn, when you put it like that it makes me even more depressed how shitty SnK fandom turned out :(

So much potential... wasted.

And I agree with you about Free! it knows exactly what it's doing and it did what it set out to do. The moment Haru and Rin dramatically threw off their shirts to reveal they always wear their swimsuit underneath, I knew this show wasn't taking itself too seriously. It did have some genuinely touching moments but at it's heart it was a lighthearted story of friendship and swimming.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, yes, and long-suffering Makoto trying to keep Haru from getting charged with indecent exposure <3

It might be silly, it might be slash-bait, but at least it's self-aware and tongue-in-cheek (though it does have its touching moments as well as moments of surprising depth, I agree), and this is something that I can always appreciate.

But yes, the SnK fandom. I shall forever mourn what might have been :( (Or I could just start writing, though real life is doing its best to make sure I don't have too much time on my hands.)

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Which is weird because I went into Free! also expecting nothing and wanting something cute and feels-y. After the first episode, I wanted to murder the entire cast with a pool noodle. I gave it two more episodes and ended up hating every. single. character.

But it's really not a surprise that something cute and uncomplicated will have better fic, because it doesn't take much in the way of skill or effort to write it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
OP

Well, I'm genuinely sorry you didn't like it. It always sucks when you think something might be fun and it turns out it isn't. :(

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
and the characters are actually compelling beyond the usual anime stereotypes

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA are you fucking serious? They're all the textbook sports anime stereotypes, just add a little queerbait here and there. Worse than Prince of Tennis, and I didn't think anything could top that in terms of "so stereotypical it's almost unintentional parody."

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, I don't even like Free, but I know I'm not the demographic it's aiming for and I appreciate that it knew what its audience wanted and served it on a golden platter.