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[(Anonymous)]

Coworker I admire adopted a dog last year and absolutely loves the dog. Dog occasionally bites her husband. They try training, medications, etc., anything to keep the dog. I get regular updates.

Except now they're going to have a baby, so it's also a case of "what if he bites the baby?" and now apparently if this last thing they're trying doesn't work, they're having the dog put down before the kid arrives.

Just don't expect me to ooh and aah over your new baby at work when all I can think about is your dead dog.

[(Anonymous)]

Why the fuck do they not take the dog to a local shelter or something? I understand their concerns but I hate people who think pets are disposable.

[(Anonymous)]

"But what if someone else adopts it and it bites someone else's kid? Better just kill it to be safe." HATE

[(Anonymous)]

IA, but I also hate when people argue that there's never, ever a time to put an animal down due to aggression*. For example, If a dog is trying to attack anyone that comes within five feet of it? It needs to be put to sleep.

*Not saying that's what's going on with the situation the OP is talking about

[(Anonymous)]

Even a no kill shelter will put down a dog that bites. Obviously they don't think the dog is disposable because they've gone to extremes to keep it. Sounds more like they've been in denial about having a dangerous animal in their home.

[(Anonymous)]

Have you suggested maybe finding another home for the dog/put it up for adoption?

And, if they can't [for whatever reason], are you really suggesting that they should keep a dog that's known to bite people around a small child?

[(Anonymous)]

No, I understand why they would not want the dog hurting their new baby, but they went to so much trouble to keep the dog, and the dog was there first, and I've just heard too many stories about people getting rid of their pets because of the new baby. And "I have this aggressive dog that I need to make not aggressive" is not the best time to try for a baby, really.

[(Anonymous)]

na

were they really actively trying for a baby or did it just happen? or maybe they thought they would have the issue resolved and didn't realize how dangerous the dog could potentially be (even if it only occasionally bites) until they were actually expecting a child

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think I would expect someone to actually put off starting a family because they're trying to train a dog. to give them some credit, it's not like they decided they giving up on the dog as soon as they realized they were pregnant. they are still actively trying to resolve the dog's issues; realistically they've pretty much done everything they could for the dog and I would probably hesitate before trying to get someone to adopt a dog that is known to have aggression issues

[(Anonymous)]

People don't always get the chance to plan when they have their kids.

As for the rest, on one hand yeah. Too many people do use a baby as an excuse to get rid of their pets. On the other? I think in this case it might be justified. From what you've said, it sounds like they've tried just about every option there is to lessen their dogs aggression without it working, which does sometimes happen. And, in those cases, it's not exactly unheard of for shelters to refuse to take an animal [or for them to take them and turn around and put them to sleep once they get them because they're hard to adopt out at the best of times]. Which leaves looking for someone else to take the dog in, and *personally* I'd try that but there's a pretty good chance of that failing too, tbh.

So...I can see why they'd be looking at that option.

[(Anonymous)]

...?

If their first response to having a dog that bites was to put it down, I'd agree with you. But it sounds like they have gone to a lot of trouble, not to mention expense, to stop the dog from biting and the dog still bites. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't wait to see if maybe it would bite my baby; I'd get rid of it before my baby was born.

Maybe they can take it to a shelter instead of putting it down, but the shelter will probably just put it down too because newsflash: dogs that bite pose a threat to every living thing around them.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate to say it, but even if they gave the dog to a shelter or something there's a good chance he would be put down if all of the training, medication and etc wasn't enough to keep him from biting people. I think a shelter might be hesitant about adopting out a dog that's known to bite people (well, provided they would tell the shelter about the issue which I hope they would before another family tried to adopt it and possibly put their children in danger). I understand where you're coming from, but this might be one of those situations where the dog won't have a happy ending either way, unless they find someone whose willing to take in a dog who is known to bite.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd probably look up some info on local shelters to send them. Keep in mind, taking the dog to a shelter won't necessarilly save it. If the dog has problems, it won't be as easy to find it a home, so if they can't adopt it out fairly quick, they will put it down anyway. I know a few people who adopted "problem dogs" and love their pets to pieces, but none of them have kids or grandkids to worry about being bitten. Expecting to them to keep the dog with a kid on the way is asking too much and it's not like this is a perfectly harmless dog that they just grew tired of.

^ discussions of animal death

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, anon. I'm not triggered or mad at you, I just wouldn't have expanded if you'd had a subject line.

Re: ^ discussions of animal death

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry. I didn't even think about it. :( I should have, considering how much it bothered me to hear.

[queerwolf]

I'm linking you to Cesar Millan's website and maybe you can suggest it to your coworker. He's a miracle worker with problem dogs.

http://www.cesarsway.com/training-cesar%27s-way/Welcome-to-Training-Cesars-Way

[(Anonymous)]

For some reason, I always thought that guy was a chef. x.x Thanks, I'll mention it next time I talk to her.

[(Anonymous)]

da

tbf, Caesar Millan really does sound like a fancy chef's name (plus the name Caesar always makes me think of the salad)

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't he pretty widely seen as controversial because his training methods are at least semi-abusive? I've only ever heard him brought up when people are arguing about whether he is abusing the dogs or if his methods are justified.

[(Anonymous)]

So you think that they should either take the risk that the dog will bite the baby, or give it to a new owner that will get bitten instead? How about you offer to take the dog, if you think it can still be trained? For the record, I think that dogs should be put down, if they keep biting people despite training.

[(Anonymous)]

Nowhere did I say that. It's a shitty situation and I felt like venting my frustration. For the record, if I were allowed to have pets in my apartment, I would offer to take the dog and see if we could make it work, because as far as I know he's only bitten one of them and not both of them, and I have enjoyed the dog vicariously through my coworker's stories up til now.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly if they can't handle the dog now, they might as well give it away so they can focus on their child. My aunt and uncle had a dog that became basically ignored when they had two kids, where the dog was kept outside for the majority of the time.
What I don't see is why their option is get the dog trained or put it down, when couldn't they give it to a shelter?

[(Anonymous)]

shelters are so overburdened that it's likely they would either not accept a dog known to be aggressive, or they would put it to sleep due to aforementioned aggressiveness (or they would try to get it adopted and then put it to sleep because most people don't want a dog that's known to bite its owners)

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, if this is a dog that still bites despite all sorts of training, etc. to get it to stop? It probably needs to be put down. A shelter cannot adopt an aggressive dog out to someone else because it is a threat to the new owners and to everyone else around it. And if your coworkers weren't able to get it to stop biting even after everything they've done, what makes you think that anyone else would be able to?

[diet_poison]

This is really heartbreaking, and sad to read, but if I'm completely honest with myself...they have done everything they could, and anons are right. A shelter would not keep it if it has a history of any kind of aggression, and as much as I love dogs, and I love them dearly, baby > dog.

I pity the dog. But it might be the only option.

They could also see if they can find an adult (no kids or other animals) willing to take in the dog, but chances are probably not good.

I'm sure it will not be easy on them if that's the decision they make, and I understand why you're upset. *hugs*