[ SECRET POST #2637 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2637 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I sometimes forget that portions of Tumblr think everyone's world revolves around race.

Here is the thing, many places (in the US and internationally) are not as racially diverse as most people think.

So, if say a white person only grows up around white people, they are likely going to be attracted to white people.

Now, if a Japanese person grows up in a predominantly Japanese community, take a guess on what ethnicity/race most of their fancasts are going to be.

This isn't a conscious, decision. The people are not going, "Fucking _______ people, my fancast is just gonna be _____________."

[(Anonymous)]

Because we all know racism is 100% conscious hatred. It's never subtle preference. So what if most realtors slightly prefer white people and try harder to find them good houses? Or renters slightly prefer white people and will take an ok white tenant over a great black tenant? Or that millions of those people making tiny decisions over and over would have any measurable effect on life as we know it.

Nope. The only way to be racist is to put on a white hood and scream obscenities. Everything more subtle than that gets you a big shiny gold star that goes Not Racist At All.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that would fall under racist, but OP's use of "big ol' racist" pretty much means the consciously racist crowd.

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't racist to be attracted to your race. Who does it hurt? As long as you are not going, "Ew _______ people." It hurts 0% of people.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah but maybe someone exhibiting the subtle preferences and unconscious assumptions that contribute to racist structures is not grounds for saying "Fuck you, you big ol' fucking racist"

your position is equally inimical to subtlety as the one you're critiquing! the OP is the one who started the process of treating all racism as equivalent to putting on a white hood and screaming obscenities! take the beam out of your own eye

[kaijinscendre]

inimical. I learned a new word. O.O

[chardmonster]

Yes, not sticking a person of color in your fucking LOTR fancast is JUST LIKE being a racist landlord.

[(Anonymous)]

Because not being attracted to a person of the same sex when you're straight makes you a homophobe by default and not being attracted to a pre-op transperson because you're not into that particular set of genitals is automatically transphobic amIright.

[(Anonymous)]

CHECK YOUR CISWHITE PRIVILEGE SHITLORD.

[(Anonymous)]

It may be an unconscious thing, but that doesn't make it right. People participating in fandom, especially those who are BNFs, should be aware that the things they are putting out there are being looked at/read/admired by other people. Race IS an important issue, even if you (indefinite pronoun) live in the whitest of all places. While ignoring that and letting yourself focus on just white people may work in your offline day to day life, it's not acceptable behavior in the online world and you are acting in the role of a content creator.

That's not to say people should force characters of color into a particular setting or what have you that wouldn't have variance (which is shitty but does happen), but that they should make the effort to see outside of themselves and that they're affecting other people by choosing to not include them. To have an awareness that those who have a different skin color than white are severely marginalized and by excluding characters of color from all of their works they are actively negatively affecting other people.

With the way the world and internet are right now, race is a topic in every fandom no matter how small. Unless they live under a rock entirely or they're new to all this, it's doubtful someone will have no idea.

Internalized, unconscious racism is still racism, and it's not okay.

(Also, this is the Internet and not the US/Canada/UK/any other country or similar endeavor. It certainly is NOT Small (or Mid) Town America, where you can find places with few/no non-white folks. In fact, I'd go on to say that the Internet is everywhere BUT where you're living, unless you live in a very large city. It is diverse and has people from every corner of the world, as does fandom. Saying "But where I (indefinite pronoun) live there's only white people!" is both ignorant AND racist.)

[chardmonster]

People participating in fandom, especially those who are BNFs, should be aware that the things they are putting out there are being looked at/read/admired by approximately ten people

With the way the world and internet are right now, race is a topic in every fandom no matter how small. Unless they live under a rock entirely or they're new to all this, they must constantly self-flagellate.

[gondremark]

+ approximately 12

[(Anonymous)]

BNFs, fanfic writers or tumblr users as a whole don't owe you shit. Stop whining.

[(Anonymous)]

The irony is, the SJW above is prolly whiter than white.

[(Anonymous)]

As a white fanfic writer there is no way I would ever write about a character of colour*, because they would simply be a white person (based on me) wearing darker skin, and the only reason the reader could know that they were meant to be a person of colour is if I regularly, and inappropriately, mentioned the colour of their skin.

You may call that racist, I call it showing respect.

*Though, incidentally, as a woman, I don't have any problem writing male characters, mainly because my ex husband once told me he was sure he was more like me than like some of the men he had to deal with.

[(Anonymous)]

white person (based on me) wearing darker skin

This is 100% the problem with SJWs, IMO; that they think skin colour automatically makes people different, in incredibly specific ways, based on what specific colour each person is.

THAT IS RACISM YOU NITWITS.

/yeah yeah preaching to the choir

[(Anonymous)]

POC here. Look, I can tell you mean well, there's no argument about that. What I find weird is that you somehow imagine that having a different skin color makes a person soooooo drastically different from you that you couldn't possibly write them well. I'm not sure I feel respected to know that white people consider me so alien, I can't possibly be very similar to them underneath because my skin isn't white. That's a very clear and uncomfortable way of saying I'm Not Like You.


"...and the only reason the reader could know that they were meant to be a person of colour is if I regularly, and inappropriately, mentioned the colour of their skin."

Really? When you write male characters, is the only reason the reader could know they were meant to be male is because you regularly, inappropriately mention their genitalia/self-identification? How do they know you're writing a man, then?

What I'm saying is, this is not the impossible problem you're making it out to be. It's okay to be nervous about writing POC characters. I am too! I'm nervous about doing anything well when it comes to writing! But it's not a "I can't even attempt it because it's disrespectful" thing.

[(Anonymous)]

JFC, get off that high horse before you fall and hurt yourself, Anon. Neither you nor anybody else is the authority with whom we all must check to make sure our behavior and content are 'acceptable.' If you don't like what you find (or don't find) online, try another site or create whatever shit you think should be out here yourself.

People like you are the reason I sometimes want to do something wildly politically incorrect, SOLELY for the pleasure of watching you turn purple and explode.

[(Anonymous)]

DOOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT

[(Anonymous)]

If you want to say/do racist stuff, have the moxie to just go and do it already, don't use anyone else's internet posts as your excuse. Everyone who knows what "politically incorrect" really means is bored with your shit.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't stoop to OP's level.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry but unpaid hobbyists posting their fantasy fodder on the internet don't owe fictional representation to anyone of any race, gender, class, religion, or sexuality.

[(Anonymous)]

+approximately one billion to this.