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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-27 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2641 ]


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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-03-27 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Because Ameiricentric SJW's assume slave means POC

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean, in the show they are all very, very brown and she is very, very white.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"very very brown"

LOL that's the common skin tone in my southern European country...

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah and notice that when Katniss is described as olive-skinned, tumblr instantly insists that it means 100% POC!!!11

Then again those same people have called Iranians, Armenians and Sami who have disagreed with them as "white-passing", so...

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, the Sami thing. *snort*

But yeah, it's almost like the US-American social construct of race can't be freely applied to the rest of the world.

I mean, there has never been significant ethnic tension among native populations in Africa or Asia because they're all ~POC~, right?

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Oh lawd yes. We Iranians are only glorious POC until we disagree, at which point we become white-passing and then white devils and then blah blah blah I stop paying attention and click "ignore". For some crazy reason, it's always the white American SJ fanatics who throw "white-passing" at me. Gosh, that's surprising.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. I'm not offended by it but I find the savior trope pretty embarrassing.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's because they were extras, you know, since they shoot in a country that is very, very brown. Do you really think they were going to fly white extras all the way there, just for one scene?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
this justification is pretty funny tbh

it's not racist, dude, there just weren't any white people around to be the slaves

oops.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Which is funny considering where the word "slave" even comes from. hint: white people enslaving other white people.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not just white people, the Tatars and Turks really, really liked Slavic sex slaves in their slave markers.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
The whole situation in America is funny considering the first slaveowner in America was black, and some black people owned slaves too.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I have seen some SJWs try to classify the Irish as POC because they don't want to admit that yes in fact white people CAN be oppressed.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-03-27 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking as a mick fuck that.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Are they going to call Slavs POC too when they learn about their history in the Holocaust and how they were slaves of Muslims, Orthodox and Protestants since after the fall of the Roman Empire.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
WHAT. HOW.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Because 130 years ago, they would have been. Study some fucking history.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, are they ever gonna stop using the term POC.
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[personal profile] lotesse 2014-03-28 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
considering that the term was coined by a feminist of color your use of "they" comes off as really fucking ignorant

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
They will as soon as they decide POC is now offensive and we move on to the next PC word/phrase.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
That makes me probably the whitest POC in the history of anything ever, then.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
It does now, but in the late 1800s in America, you would have been treated like shit for being Irish.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
They were POC. They no longer are.

My fucking god, the ignorance of you people is grating. Race is a goddamned motherfucking construct. Racial boundaries change depending on time and place. Prior to the advent of the African slave trade, "black" did not possess negative racial connotations; much of the bullshit that is used to justify racism against blacks was developed as a justification for slavery, not the other way around.

Additionally, Irish people (as well as Germans, Italians, Spaniards, Polish folks, etc) were not considered to be white in the 1800s and early 1900s. They were all considered to be members of separate and unequal races. So, there actually is some logic to people saying that they are POC, and you idiots would know that if you actually studied any of this shit instead of just reacting to crap on the internet. The reason it's now wrong for people to say that the Irish are POC is because they no longer are, not because the concept itself is ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, we (Irish people) were regarded as racially different from Anglo Saxons. No, we were not regarded as being a different colour. We were regarded as a different and inferior sort of white person. It's absurd to use the modern US term Person of Colour in this context

I'm not starting in on you, but are you American? Your slang suggests you are. I find a lot of Americans very hung up on skin colour as being the sole defining feature of racial discrimination and the only way you can rationalise white-on-white racial discrimination is to either go "that's not racism, it's xenophobic bigotry" or to do what you're doing and say "they were regarded as racially different and that automatically equals not-white". You do the same sort of thing when it comes to things like Asian-on-Asian racism - it's recast as classism or shadism or any other sort of -ism just as long as it's not racism because you can't conceive of racism as something that can happen between people who have roughly the same skin colour and without white people being involved.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Always missing the point with your vendetta.