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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-30 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2644 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2644 ⌋

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Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Character death. I know people get caught up in stories and identify with characters, but... seriously? You want a semi-spoiler because you're going to go beserk if someone who doesn't really exist dies? I think if it's truly going to traumatize you, then you need to take a break until the line between fantasy and reality is a little less blurry for you.


(And yes, I've read fanfic/books which had characters I was emotionally invested in die. It was upsetting, but deep down, I KNOW IT'S NOT REAL. That's why I don't need a "warning" that bad things happen in literature.)

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't need a trigger warning. I do want a warning. It won't traumatize me, but it will make me sad, and guess what? I don't like being sad. I can get that from real life.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
What things do you read where nothing sad ever happens? I'm all for feelgood fics myself, but I have to admit it sounds a little flat to have a plot where everything is fine and there's no conflict whatsoever.
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Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-03-30 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
So you prefer stories with no danger-related suspense?

Do you avoid genre fiction, then? Only read porny fanfics? Not making fun, legit question. I'm not sure how you consume media while avoiding all character death unless it's all romances and sitcoms. Even soaps kill off characters.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP, but I like to be told about character death in fanfiction. I don't usually care about other media, but when I read fic I'm usually just in the mood to read fluffy or happy stuff, so I like to know to avoid anything else. But I definitely don't think it warrants a trigger warning. And I wouldn't hate on anyone who didn't warn for character death. They might not want to give spoilers for the plot.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP either, but I agree with this. I'm not going to throw a fit if someone doesn't warn for character death, but I sure as heck appreciate it, because I hate reading fic with it. Doesn't bother me overly much in canon work, but if I'm reading fic, I'm usually not in the mood.
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Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

[personal profile] inkdust 2014-03-31 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, fanfic different from general media for me. I'm not interested in death in fic.
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Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

[personal profile] inkdust 2014-03-31 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
...is

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. I'm down with drama, difficulties, danger, all that but at the end of the road, I want the characters to survive to play another day. I've read good deathfic but I'm not interested in a general sense.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
agree. not a trigger, woudn't resent anyone for not warning, but in fanfic, something I definitely appreciate knowing about in advance. Other media is what it is, but I go to fanfic for a lot of reasons, and sometimes it's because I want to cheer myself up with happy fluff or sexy fun. It's nice to be able to scroll past obvious downers when I'm in that frame of mind.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I read the beginning to see if I'm interested, then I read the end to see how it turns out, then if I'm satisfied with the ending I read the middle.

Movies I have to look up a point-by-point synopsis or I get anxious and have to leave the room.
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Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-03-31 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Stories are perfectly capable of incorporating effective danger-related suspense without killing off characters. The vast majority of prime-time TV dramas will not kill off a member of the main cast in the middle of a season, but the characters on many of those shows are in life-threatening danger every episode. It's suspenseful and exciting because the viewer experiences the characters' fear and uncertainty, even if they know that the writers would never kill off these characters mid-season. It's suspension of disbelief.

Besides, as the other anon mentioned, people often read fanfic to satisfy different needs than they use canon for -- and not just smut, either. Plenty of action-oriented casefic or other gen doesn't involve character death. When it does, I don't think it's unreasonable to use content labels (not trigger warnings), so people can make more informed decisions and find the kind of fic they will enjoy reading.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. I think it's stupid. Especially when characters died in the canon.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I resent having to warn for character death, as well. But I do it, because the complaining otherwise is insane.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
'Choose not to warn' is a valid warning you can use, instead of actually spelling out 'character death.'

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't seem to work. I almost always throw on 'Choose not to warn' as a safety net for whatever thing-of-the-week I forget/don't know to warn for. Still get bawled out.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Tempting to write up a long PSA about what 'choose not to warn' means, and copy & paste it to each dunderhead who complains.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that it shouldn't be a *trigger* warning but I kind of get why people like to be warned for character death.
People read fanfiction to get specific emotional fixes. Fanfic can be so very specifically tailored for your exact needs, there are so many ways in which you can find a story that presses the exact emotional buttons you want pressed at that moment. And that's part of what people like about fanfiction. Published books are a different matter, and people come to them with different expectations.

So yeah, sometimes I just don't want to read a fic where my favorite character dies right at that moment.
But then, there are the convenient "choose not to use archive warnings" tags in Ao3, so you can get around it if you really want to.
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Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

[personal profile] inkdust 2014-03-31 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is my view.

Re: Most ridiculous "trigger warnings"?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, there are some archives that require warnings, and sometimes it ends up defeating the purpose.

Like having to tag a "character death".. when there are several close calls, but only one real death, at the very end of a 500K fic, and of a character that is greatly hated in said fandom.

So, then the author is yelled at for "misleading the audience".

Ah, fandom. Never change.