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⌈ Secret Post #2667 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/EWd4n7k.png

[(Anonymous)]

You do know that CLAMP appears to be fixing xxxHolic through Rei, right? They themselves acknowledged how confusing the ending was to the first series.

[(Anonymous)]

How so? I have a real hard time seeing how it's even POSSIBLE to fix the ending of xxxHolic, holy bee-trees was that terrible.

[blueonblue]

So far, XXXholic Rei has been shit.

[alectoperdita]

"Too little, too late."

[(Anonymous)]

I'm reading that now. I like it.

[dreemyweird]

OP ARE YOU ME??

I refuse to watch anything that's longer than forty eps. "Shows that are longer than forty eps are crap" is my rule of thumb. I only ever make exceptions for (faithful) adaptations of books (e.g. Poirot).

I tried to give non-faithful currently-running adaptations a go, and guess what? I've ended up ragequitting every. Single. One. Of them. So, nope. Unless you've got a very strong case in favour of a particular series, there is no chance in hell I'm giving it a go.

When it comes to books, I'm less hesitant to pick up the series that are currently being published, but admittedly it is a new experience for me and I do fear that my favourites are going to be screwed over by the authors/aren't going to be finished before the author dies (one of my worst nightmares, tbh...). I just haven't been burnt yet.

[rubbertea]

inb4 lost

but seriously, i don't really understand this point of view. so because one chapter/episode out of 100+ was kinda shitty, it ruined the entire series for (general) you, and you stopped liking it? so all the moments you enjoyed, the characters you cared about, you suddenly look back on them with anger and disdain?
i mean, i can understand being disappointed and even angry, but the episodes you thought were good still are, no matter how tinted your glasses are.

[dreemyweird]

Obviously not OP, but

>so because one chapter/episode out of 100+ was kinda shitty, it ruined the entire series for (general) you, and you stopped liking it?

yes. If it is so bad that it cannot be reconciled with my view of the characters and the in-universe dynamics, the answer is hell, yes. I won't touch it with a barge pole.

Because I cannot disregard it and pretend that it didn't happen in the canon (because it did), and hence I am forced to accept that a part of this universe - be it a character or a cool plot device - is royally screwed. Which, predictably, ruins it for me.

I don't know, it's a weird question. It's like asking "so because person X stabbed you with a knife once, it ruined your entire relationship with them??" Of course it bloody did.

[diet_poison]

I do think being disappointed at the ending is a much bigger deal than being disappointed at one episode somewhere in the middle.

That said I feel much the same way as you - for example I hated the ending to ME3 (me and practically everyone else) and it's still basically my favorite thing - but yeah. I can understand that for others it might mess it up more.

[blueonblue]

so all the moments you enjoyed, the characters you cared about, you suddenly look back on them with anger and disdain?

Yes. That's how bad XXXholic's ending was. Five years or enjoying it, two years of hoping it would get back to what it had been, then everything was ruined by an ending that undid years of character development and betrayed all of the themes that were supposedly so important.

[meredith44]

because one chapter/episode out of 100+ was kinda shitty, it ruined the entire series for (general) you, and you stopped liking it?

It doesn't happen a lot for me, but yes. Although it generally isn't one episode/chapter, but rather one storyline that may or may not be contained in an episode. (Like Lorelai cheating in her relationship on Gilmore Girls. Or the head in a box in Prison Break. Or House and the car in House. Among other things.) If they totally change a character/tone, I have issues going back and enjoying what happened before. (Although in the case of Gilmore Girls, I at least watched until the end. Unlike the other two.)

[herongale]

Even when something is fictional, it can be hard to just pick and choose the parts of it you'll "keep" (read: accept as real). Although I can also disregard some bad things in a story that I otherwise like, I think there comes a point (for me, anyway) where disregarding anything more just feels... delusional.

[hiyami]

Not OP, but about Buffy, I became a big fan around Season 3, caught up on everything and was a huge fan until season 6 started. I went to conventions, spent a lot of time on a fan board, etc.

It all went downhill from then because I found season 6 was meh.

By the time the mess that was Season 7 ended, not only did I stop caring so much that I never even considered getting into the comics or keeping up with whatever else was happeing in that fandom. I was even glad that it ended there. And I never watched my DVDs ever again.
While before, whenever there were reruns on TV, I'd watch them half of times.

So, I totally get what OP means.
I haven't been able to invest that much attention into a TV show again because it all looks pointless.

[silverr]

Aw, OP, I'm sorry S7 of Buffy didn't waft your yacht.

[(Anonymous)]

BtVS - dragging audiences through endless seasons of unrelenting misery and godawful shit years before SPN made it cool.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm mostly the same (if something grabs me, then it just grabs me).
If the show/book series already finished, it's less of a problem for me (since I can spoil myself for everything if I want to and still enjoy it)...but if it's ongoing... urgh. The pain of reading Naruto now... but atleast it seems to come near the end now (no matter how it ends, it's gotten so terrible, it won't redeem myself for me anymore, but I want to know HOW it ends, so...).
Now, Detective Conan on the other hand... I gave up. I can't take random case #59281948 anymore.

And I think no TV show should go over 7 seasons without a really good reason.

[gabzillaz]

Ugh xxxHolic

And while we are at it ugh TRC

[(Anonymous)]

Meh. If I can't enjoy a whole season I can usually still find a couple of episodes and lots of individual scenes, character moments and additions to the mythology and setting from others that are worth the watch. If nothing else a bad season still provides roleplaying and fic fodder--anything I didn't like, I can fix myself!

[electromouse]

Oh man, yeah agreeing so hard. I dropped Buffy after her going to college or something. And her not-boyfriend but cute guy getting eaten after 5 minutes of talking because why the hell not.

And Holic... jfc, what can we say about Holic that hasn't been said yet? The "revelation" about Watanuki's origin was the biggest asspull I've ever seen and then, the ending. Good LORD, that fucking ending was utterly ridiculous.

I just realized all the cursing in this post. I'm sorry, it's just that the holic endind still makes me angry.

[blueonblue]

Buffy is the reason I decided to wait until Battlestar Galactica and Lost were finished to start watching them. I thought that if the fans seemed pretty satisfied, I'd give them a try.

[(Anonymous)]

Still so bitter about xxxholic. I'm not going anywhere near Rei until it's over and safe to say if it's worth it or not.

[lyriel]

TV series, especially sitcoms, shouldn't last for more than three or four seasons at the most, period. This is a huge pet-issue of mine. The era of Seinfeld and Frasier is over.

The entire concept of "jumping the shark" comes from shows that lasted longer than they should have. Quantity is the enemy of quality.

I also *really* believe people should get more creative with formats in general: more mini-series, more shows that have maybe a grand total of ten or twenty one-hour episodes instead of a hundred or more episodes at barely 20 minutes. Or, you could have a trilogy of movie-length episodes, on TV, and this could be a new thing. Take some risks and get experimental with the format.
This is what would revitalize TV and make me want to watch more. But, is that going to happen? Apparently not, because I'm guessing it's more profitable to have some show drag on for eight, ten, or twelve years.

[beverlykatz]

Oh nooo, xxxHolic had a bad ending? I loved that series when I was younger. I only ever got as far as the timeskip (no spoilers!), but I've always meant to finish it. Sucks to know the ending is disappointing. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Aw, xxxHolic hate. *sniff*

Seriously, though, I'm starting to get like this. I was looking at my DVD collection and I couldn't think of any that wouldn't be better if they'd ended at 3-4 seasons. I'd let X-Files go for 6 seasons.