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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-09 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2684 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2684 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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07. [WARNING for abuse/child abuse]



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loracarol: (roger disapproves)

[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-09 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This post pissed me off so fucking much.

For a minute, assume that the tumble person was telling the truth exactly as they claimed. In that case, they were totally fine with not contacting security and letting a potential pedophile wander around a convention but still posting it all over tumblr ffffffs.

AND THAT JUST PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF.

ESPECIALLY since the ~girl didn't want to cause trouble~ FUCK. YOU. You are the ADULT. It is your fucking responsibility to get security, to let them know that there is a potential kidnapper/pedophile in an area with a lot of kids.

Guess what? What's why, if you believe a child is about to disclose something to you, you never promise you won't tell, not ever. It is one of the FIRST things you learn when you're learning how to work with kids. Hell, some states have a mandatory reporting laws, so if you don't report, not only are you being a piece of shit, you're also breaking the law.

Congratulations.

And if the post wasn't real/was exaggerating, as more information seems to claim? That's just fucked up. Pedophiles aren't a fucking joke.

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[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-05-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this!

(I was disgusted when I saw some people calling the OP of that story a "hero". THERE IS NOTHING REMOTELY HEROIC ABOUT WHAT THEY DID.)
loracarol: (THAT SMILE OKAY)

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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
They are a piece of shit, and I hope no one else ever goes to them with an actual problem, because I honestly don't think I could trust them to help.

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[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-05-09 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah

and if it wasn't true...it's kinda gross to attentionwhore off of a made up case of CHILD MOLESTATION just to defame a fandom you don't like.

(also minor nitpick but....the "nickname" they gave the girl 'Babby'? Sheez talk about patronizing.)
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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-09 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
YEP.

(Yeah... That weirded me out, and I know I would have been weirded out when I was 11. Maybe if it was a diminutive of my name? Like Barbara/Babby or something, but still! Of course, that was me. |D)

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. You're the adult here, overrule the kid and get con security involved. And if you can't manage that, don't slam them on Tumblr for not being psychic. Not reading minds is not a flaw anyone should be blamed for.
loracarol: (THAT SMILE OKAY)

[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-09 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
^^^^^

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of the joke, "What's the best part about having sex with twenty-four year olds? There's twenty of them.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-09 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If you have a problem with pedophiles, grow up.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
If you enjoy edgy humor and dead baby jokes, stop being 14
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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I admit it, I laughed at both of the horrible pedo jokes.
elaminator: (Hawkeye: Clint - Facepalm)

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-09 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm more disturbed by the brony bandwagon that 'omg a brony couldn't be a pedophile', when a few years back a brony harassed a minor into giving him a blowjob AND THEN SLUTSHAMED HER later. It's not impossible, but I'm glad if it was fabricated.
loracarol: (What flash)

[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-10 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
That's really awful. :(

Yeah, from what I've heard, this was either really blown out of proportion, or it didn't happened at all.

Either way, it pisses me off.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he was a scumbag. I remember one of the excuses he gave was, "I was horny so I couldn't help myself!"

One of the reasons why I wouldn't have doubted this story if not for the 'not telling anyone' thing.
loracarol: (the spine)

[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-10 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Gross.

Yeah, on my end, I had already read the daily dot article by the time the post came around, so I was already suspicious (give that the dd article only listed one other source to the situation), but the fact that they didn't tell anyone is what drove it from "it might have happened, but I want more evidence then a tumblr post and one person confirming it" to "I don't give two flying fucks if you made this up or not you asshats".

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm shocked - SHOCKED - to discover that there might be problems with sexual harassment in my extremely sexualized fandom built around the weirdest people on 4chan

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not in the fandom and I wasn't shocked. I'm disturbed by their reaction, because it wasn't like something like that hadn't happened before.

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[personal profile] ex_mek82 2014-05-10 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
This so much.

SacAnime's response was beyond deplorable and they should be ashamed for following their policy and not to the policy of the con.

What's even more disgusting is that they essentially cried wolf on something as serious as child predators. What the hell, was that person *that* desperate for their 15 minutes of Tumblr fame? Ugh.
loracarol: (mission: fish)

[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-10 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Hell, they should be ashamed that that is their policy, because that is a potentially dangerous policy.

Yep.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who has been con staff, this whole thing pisses me right off because con security exists for a reason, but we can't do anything unless you report it to us. Security can't be everywhere and see everything and that's why we rely on congoers to tell us when something is going on so that we can stop it.
loracarol: (to the side to the side)

[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-10 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I love con staff. <3 Last year, my friend and I were accosted right outside of the con who were selling "CD's", and really in your face/creepy, you know? And we told con staff, and they were gone when we got back to the con!

Seriously, you guys are awesome, and I totally understand the "can't be everywhere" situation.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'll show my appreciation for con staff here too, while I've been to some poorly managed cons in the past, the ones I've been to where the staff cares and does their job properly have been great, and it really helps the atmosphere when you've got competent security that's willing to crack down on the more belligerent or creepy fans.

It's tough, they are dealing with the geekiest sides of fandoms, cons always attract a certain number of socially maladjusted individuals, probably suffering from any number of mental disorders, and a con is a sometimes overwhelming morass of people, there are bound to be incidents, and I've seen a lot in my 14 years as a congoer (not just for geeky stuff either, the worst brawl I've ever seen was at a model train convention, 3 people hospitalized.

Good security teams always have my respect, and it is the prompt and professional response of con staff that keeps me coming back to my favorite conventions time and time again. So yes, my appreciation goes out to those that volunteer their time and effort to improving the experiences of those around them.