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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-09 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2684 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2684 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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07. [WARNING for abuse/child abuse]



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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't heard about this, help an anon out?
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-09 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
2-second Google glance tells me a brony was sexually harassing an 11 year old girl at a con, at least that's how the con itself described it.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
D-:

Nuke it from orbit, and salt the earth, just to be certain.
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[personal profile] inthecorner 2014-05-09 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't that turn out to be faked?

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[personal profile] the_missing_y 2014-05-10 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck me. that's... fucking hell

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it was about a kid being left unattended and was then snatched at a con? Not sure

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
yeah I think it was a Brony who did it, and then he sold her to a mutant dinosaur...

...sorry, I figured if we were just gonna make stuff up we might as well make it interesting

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.dailydot.com/geek/babs-con-11-year-old-stalked-harassed-by-adult-brony/

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I saw:
11 year old girl is stalked at a con by a brony and spends most of it hiding at one of the stalls, this lasts more than one day.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Google says an 11 year old girl at a con asked a booth "can I hide under your table, there's a man following me", apparently he tried to grab her in the elevator and invited her up to her room.

Booth said sure, girl hid, booth was snide to man. Girl helped booth sell stuff.

Internet questions why the booth didn't notify the con security.

Booth says "Parent's job!"

Parent said "LOL daughter seemed to be exaggerating!"

Booth goes "Phew"

Internet goes "Wait, what?"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the this whole had been debunked.

I know the person who wrote about this happening deleted their tumblr account and people who were mentioned being harassed tweeted that they hadn't been.

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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-09 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
There was a post going around tumblr about an 11-year-old girl at a con who supposedly was supposedly harassed by a brony. Somehow only two people in the entire convention noticed this happening, the person who wrote up the tumblr post, and one of the people at her table (the Sacanime booth).

Instead of contacting security, despite the fact that they supposedly had actual face to face interaction with this potential pedophile/creeper, and despite being really close to the security table, the person and her boss decided not to tell security, but instead to inform the parent* and talk about it on tumblr.

As a result, they were banned from future Babscon's unless they go through a training course about ACTUALLY PROTECTING KIDS FROM PEDOPHILES instead of just complaining about it on tumblr.

...I might be a little biased.

Later information revealed that it might be false, however, given that the OP was saying untrue information (sexualized fanart in the dealers hall, and the parent (*) coming forward, and saying that she was never told of the creeper.)

That's what I know about it.

*Later a letter was posted

http://loracarol.tumblr.com/post/83833123091/a-word-about-bronies

(sorry for linking to myself, and my ranting; afaik the original poster left)

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
That's what pisses me off most about this, because the OP that started this seemed to care more about scoring points against their favorite target of derision than actually dealing with what could have been a very tragic situation. The entire original story reeked of this, the whole thing was describing how terrible some of the bronies were (and outright lying about circumstances I.E. reporting pornagraphy in the main hall, which was against the rules and nobody else at the con could corroborate the story) and the actual important point, the supposed attempt at abduction, is just fucking glossed over as another point against bronies, not the actual serious event it should have been treated as, like it was a bullet point equal to complaining about smelly fedora neckbeards and pony porn.

What actually happened is apparently still up in the air, either not like what was described, or exaggerated after the fact, the con staff responded appropriately by coming down on the booth for not reporting something like that, and trying to follow up to confirm the safety of the child, report to the parent, and try to find the potential abuser even when doubts arose, the con staff still took the situation seriously, which is good, as I've known some anime and sci-fi cons I've been to in the past have been bit in the ass by harassment issues that weren't properly followed up on.

I mentioned this a few days ago, but my first anime con way back in the early 2000's had a creeper hauled out in cuffs after getting caught trying to seduce a 14 year old in his hotel room. In that case, the people who witnessed it responded appropriately, and con security was quick to get the authorities involved, that's how it SHOULD happen, not ignoring it so you can include it as a fucking bullet point in a list to take out your grudge on a fandom, that's how a fucking child behaves, not an adult.

I hate getting so worked up about this, but I work for the Department of Child and Family Services for my state, and this shit is something we take deadly serious, even accusations by children are at least enough to get police involved and investigations started. The entire event accomplished nothing more than making the people irrationally angry at bronies look like a bunch of loons, and could potentially hurt accurate information and reporting if something like this happens in the future. I have been in various fandoms long enough to know that there are real creepers out there, and they need to be reported when they crop up, because I fucking guarantee that bronies, like all fandoms, are composed mostly of people that will not tolerate that shit going down at their cons, no, con staff aren't perfect, but any halfway competent con has a vested interest in keeping this stuff from happening, and will involve the law in events like this.

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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-09 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This post pissed me off so fucking much.

For a minute, assume that the tumble person was telling the truth exactly as they claimed. In that case, they were totally fine with not contacting security and letting a potential pedophile wander around a convention but still posting it all over tumblr ffffffs.

AND THAT JUST PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF.

ESPECIALLY since the ~girl didn't want to cause trouble~ FUCK. YOU. You are the ADULT. It is your fucking responsibility to get security, to let them know that there is a potential kidnapper/pedophile in an area with a lot of kids.

Guess what? What's why, if you believe a child is about to disclose something to you, you never promise you won't tell, not ever. It is one of the FIRST things you learn when you're learning how to work with kids. Hell, some states have a mandatory reporting laws, so if you don't report, not only are you being a piece of shit, you're also breaking the law.

Congratulations.

And if the post wasn't real/was exaggerating, as more information seems to claim? That's just fucked up. Pedophiles aren't a fucking joke.

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[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-05-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this!

(I was disgusted when I saw some people calling the OP of that story a "hero". THERE IS NOTHING REMOTELY HEROIC ABOUT WHAT THEY DID.)
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They are a piece of shit, and I hope no one else ever goes to them with an actual problem, because I honestly don't think I could trust them to help.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. You're the adult here, overrule the kid and get con security involved. And if you can't manage that, don't slam them on Tumblr for not being psychic. Not reading minds is not a flaw anyone should be blamed for.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-05-09 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
^^^^^

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of the joke, "What's the best part about having sex with twenty-four year olds? There's twenty of them.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-09 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm more disturbed by the brony bandwagon that 'omg a brony couldn't be a pedophile', when a few years back a brony harassed a minor into giving him a blowjob AND THEN SLUTSHAMED HER later. It's not impossible, but I'm glad if it was fabricated.

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[personal profile] ex_mek82 2014-05-10 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
This so much.

SacAnime's response was beyond deplorable and they should be ashamed for following their policy and not to the policy of the con.

What's even more disgusting is that they essentially cried wolf on something as serious as child predators. What the hell, was that person *that* desperate for their 15 minutes of Tumblr fame? Ugh.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who has been con staff, this whole thing pisses me right off because con security exists for a reason, but we can't do anything unless you report it to us. Security can't be everywhere and see everything and that's why we rely on congoers to tell us when something is going on so that we can stop it.

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