[ SECRET POST #2694 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2694 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[General Hospital]


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[Homestuck, The Other Woman, Pacific Rim, Naruto, X-Men]


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04.
[The Ear, the Eye and the Arm]


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[Warehouse 13]


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06.
[Alton Brown and Anthony Bourdain]


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07.
[YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of This World]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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09.
[Magic: the Gathering]


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[Smallville]













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 046 secrets from Secret Submission Post #385.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

01. http://i.imgur.com/SLyZKry.png

[(Anonymous)]

They should have said something more applicable to modern fascism. Vote UKIP, or something.

[kaijinscendre]

*whispers* Vote Hydra. *hands pamphlet about Hydra* Everyone who votes tomorrow gets a free smoothie at Jamba Juice. *walks away slowly*

[rubbertea]

"hail golden dawn!"

[(Anonymous)]

Why? UKIP aren't fascist

they're racists, but that's not the same thing at all

[(Anonymous)]

It's a comic book based evil secret organization whose leader was The Red Skull because he was a literal red skull.

You are taking this way too seriously for what it deserves.

[kaijinscendre]

To be fair, pre-Red Skull is Hugo Weaving.



And he is terrifying.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it is. But as I said below, they managed to flesh out a lot of the characters pretty well, make it more contemporary and less cheesy.
The "Hail Hydra" thing is a few steps back from that, I feel, making it more of a caricature organization again.

[(Anonymous)]

You know people in real life who go around saying it out loud? With no context? Just, "Hey Marie." "HAIL HYDRA." "Okay Marie."

[diet_poison]

That's what I thought they meant at first, but on second consideration I think they mean they feel that way when people say it in the movie? Not sure though.

[elaminator]

With no context? Just, "Hey Marie." "HAIL HYDRA." "Okay Marie."

Hahaha.

If someone whispered "Hail hydra" in my ear randomly I would laugh for a good five minutes. (Then ask them what their favorite scene in Winter Soldier was.)

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think fascism shouldn't be represented in fiction all together? If so: why? Do you think only incredibly absurd evil should be shown, or what?

[iceyred]

Wait, are you talking about people saying 'Hail Hydra' in real life, or them saying it in the movie?

[loracarol]

Do you mean the soldiers saying it en masse? People saying it in real life? Individual Hydra agents saying it to each other?

[(Anonymous)]

I once read something about how making fun of Nazis was actually a really good approach to Nazis but damn if I can find it again.

[(Anonymous)]

Aren't caricature-ish/cartoonish portrayals of far from center political ideologies par for the course in Hollywood movies?

[(Anonymous)]

Largely off topic, but a few days ago, I met a few 7th graders who thought fascist meant someone who was obsessed with clothes.

[(Anonymous)]

I wholeheartedly agree to this statement.

[(Anonymous)]

If it helps, when originally introduced in the 60s, HYDRA was a global organization-of-evil designed to provide foils for Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD. Their nearest DNA relatives weren't Nazis as much as SPECTRE, THRUSH, and KAOS. (Global nongovernmental evil organizations that bedeviled James Bond, Napoleon Solo, and Maxwell Smart, respectively. The 60s were weird.)

[(Anonymous)]

Hail Hydra!

[rivia]

i just got back from (finally) seeing TWS a few hours ago and... yeah that's basically how i felt whenever they did that too.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel you OP. I haven't seen Winter Soldier but when I watched the first one in theatres (in Germany) every time they did the salute and went "Hail Hydra" we (and half the cinema) just laughed and laughed. If there was anything intimidating about the badguys it flew out of the window whenever they did that. Making your badguys look like they're acting out a nazi-parody for a comedy festival is not the way to go -- unless you want us to laugh at them. Almost constantly.

But isn't that classic indoctrination?

[(Anonymous)]

It's a relatively simple way to reaffirm your belief and show others in the group that you believe. A lot of organizations, evil and not, have mantras, mottos, organization-specific-speak - it's a way to make you feel that you're a part of them. It can be very ritualistic and some are all about remembering their history.

But, honestly, it was movie shorthand - an easy way to identify bad guys because we absolutely connect it to the Nazis (and really, since they already were connected to the Nazis, why not use it?).

Question for those in the know

[(Anonymous)]

Why does that symbol have tentacles. A hydra has several heads, not tentacle arms. This really bugs me.

[arcadiaego]

Me too. I didn't really get that meme at all though.