[ SECRET POST #2731 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2731 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 033 secrets from Secret Submission Post #390.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

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[kallanda_lee]

Is "manpain" becoming the new fad du jour? I keep hearing it more lately.

[(Anonymous)]

It used to be called 'giving the protagonist (generally male) something to angst about, but 'manpain' is shorter and gives SJWs something else to point and complain at because often times the victims in this scenario are women.

[silverr]

It also could be the tendency for some people to think that mockery is the correct/superior reaction to everything.

[(Anonymous)]

Every male character has manpain, every female character is a Mary Sue.

That glimpse of fandom yet to be is on the house.

[al28894]

For some reason, when I hear the word "manpain" all I can think about is a type of pancake topped with chocolate and crushed waffles.

This might be because of me just having a chocolate waffle breakfast. XD

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. It's like "trigger"; it means something valid, but fans latched onto it and trivialized it to the point of not meaning anything at all.

[galerian-ash.livejournal.com]

I hate that word.

[iceyred]

Me too. Like, way to devalue someone's suffering.

[jaybie_jarrett]

Ugh thirded.

I can accept using it in cases of badly written or shoehorned instances where the protagonist is TRULY making everything about them.

But assuming that all bad things that a male character endures = "manpain"? Fuck off.

[(Anonymous)]

Men should show their emotions more and be less stoic!!! Ugh. Look at this guy's manpain over his dead kid.

[(Anonymous)]

or on some shows manpain is overdone and boring like a certain show featuring brothers starring two talentless himboes.

[herpymcderp]

idk about this. I know nothing at all about this series, but it is admittedly a bit man-painy to have the death of a family member/girlfriend/lover be written into something just to allow a male character to show emotion and be super angsty and broody.

That's pretty much the definition of man pain.

[(Anonymous)]

yes.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, it isn't like that in the show in the secret. He loses his son in that his son falls through a portal into another world, and basically the entire show happens because he's trying to get his son back, so it's not at all written in just to give him angst.

[scrubber]

I know this isn't quite the definition, but I always figured that in order for that phrase to have any real purpose the pain the male character feels must have some kind of implicit assumption that the pain he feels can only be appreciated/understood by a man. That the trauma is in some way an affront to his masculinity. You're taking the tragedy of a female's life and making it all about how the male character has been taken down a peg as A Man, and now needs to avenge his manhood and surely all the guys in the audience can understand that right? That's fucked up.

If you're just laughing at "manpain" when it's something ANYONE would be upset over you're an idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

The second I see the word manpain I stop taking the comment/post seriously tbh

[(Anonymous)]

Personally, I only call it manpain if said "manpain" is caused by fridging an important female character, or if the male character is angsting over something stupid.
But that's just me.

[intrigueing]

I'm honestly really perturbed why anyone who doesn't revel in nastiness and wankbait even GOES to ONTD. What do people even get out of visiting that hive?

[(Anonymous)]

I consider it 'manpain' when it's badly written.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not familiar with the character, but the point of manpain isn't a male character having bad things happen to him and be in pain as a result. Manpain, iirc, is about characterization.
It's when the driving force behind the character is his pain, informs all his decisions, and makes him a dark sexy broody loner. As a result he can never deal with his pain because then he wouldn't have any characterization left. So he broods and glowers and works alone and tells women to stay away for their own good for all eternity.
Fridging isn't a necessary symptom of manpain, but it is a convenient and frequent source of it. As well as bad writing in its own right, obviously.
So when a guy cries after losing his son (I only have OP's word to go on), that can't be manpain because manpain isn't about one reaction, but about his further developement. He can still go the mainpainy way from his loss, but you can't tell the moment it happens, unless your writer is extremely boring and predictable.

[dragonimp]

I am sooo tired of that term being thrown around any time a male character shows the least bit of emotion.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I've really come to regret ever using the term, it's very dismissive and overused.

And a different fandom to yours, but I really hate when people dismiss Derek Hale's backstory as manpain. The tacked-on Paige storyline yeah I can see that, but not his family burning down or his twisted relationship with Kate.

[astridv]

Manpain is one of those words, like Mary Sue, that used to have meaning and now it doesn't any more.

[(Anonymous)]

IMO, the only time 'manpain' applies is when a female love interest is killed off only for the purpose of creating angst for a male character (fridged).

It's annoying in fandom because people make it only about the man and his angst rather than about the person who actually died. Like "aww poor baby he's been through so much" and female character that got killed off is just an afterthought.

That's why 'manpain' gets a bad reputation. It's not that people hate when a man shows emotion over some tragedy, but the fact that other characters were sacrificed purely for the reason of making a male character more sympathetic.