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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-05 03:26 pm

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Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe a weird story I want to get off my chest?

One of my friends wants a pet bird, so his solution to this is apparently to just take a young bird from the wild and keep it. I think that's kinda messed up (I think wild animals should stay in the wild, even birds, and why can't he just buy a bird?), and actually one of my other friends has looked into it and its illegal to keep this particular type of bird as a pet in my state. (Not sure why, something about it being a native bird and therefor protected? I haven't looked into the law myself.)

Do you think I should say something F!S? He is really excited about his new bird and idk if I want to burst his bubble/risk getting him mad at me, but I honestly don't agree with his choice about this bird. Or should I just keep my mouth shut cause its just a bird and its not like he's keeping an illegal exotic monkey or some shit.

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's illegal, just tell him that. You don't even have to say anything about it being messed-up (although it is), he can't get mad at you for informing him of the law (and if he does, he's a shitty friend).
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Re: Birdy woes

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-07-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
+1. This will probably not end well for him, and he should think about that.

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Just tell him, in the end, he'll be the one making the decision, and it will be an informed one at that. He'll be the one dealing with the consequences of a wild animal living in his home (bird shit and all, it's not domesticated)...I just reread your post, he's just going to take it? Okay, lol, good luck if momma bird is around.

I too agree wild animals should remain in the wild, and I personally feel bad when I see birds caged up. Be sure to remind him it would be his responsibility afterwards, and it's not like he can just return it when he feels like it.

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Has he already taken one from the wild? If he hasn't, then yeah I'd speak up, mention that it's illegal and he could get into trouble for it, and that also (this is a bit of a "duh" but apparently your friend needs it) wild animals are usually wild because they make very, very poor pets. Behavior is often not what you'd want in a domesticated animal, not to mention diseases. Check out "West Nile virus". Your friend does not want that shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_nile_virus

If he's already taken a bid, then I'd suggest looking for licensed wildlife rehabilitators in your area. You could even suggest to your friend that since this is an interest of his, he might pursue learning how to do it properly, get licensed, and then do this for real.

Another good resource:

http://www.nwrawildlife.org/content/can-i-keep-him-no

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I didn't even think of diseases, but you are totally right that is a risk? It's not like you can just take a WILD bird to a vet to get its shots or whatever, especially if its illegal.

And unfortunately he seems to have already taken one; he was texting me pictures this morning. (Which I didn't respond to cause I wasn't sure what to say besides 'oh my god you kidnapped a bird'.) Thanks for the resource though this is some good information.

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
If it were me, I'd have some strong words for that person. It sounds like he hasn't thought about the bird's welfare at all. Even if it's 'just a bird', snatching young animals from the wild like that is really not okay, and it's going to have a short, miserable life due to stress and improper care.

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
As a former wildlife rehab volunteer...

Illegality aside (which, yes, unless it's a sparrow, a starling or a pigeon, it IS illegal), that bird is going to die. Baby birds need to be fed every 15 minutes from sunup to sundown. And they can't just be fed birdseed; they require a specially-mixed diet.

If it's somehow miraculously still alive, call animal control. They'll come get it and transfer it to a licensed rehabilitator.

Oh, and tell your friend he's a dumbass for me.

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think its a total baby (It looked like maybe a fledgling to me from the pictures I was sent, but it was hard to tell they weren't high quality) but apparently (I just found out) he found it on the ground so I am worried it might be hurt or sick? I am talking to one of his roommates right now and I think we are going to join up and convince him to take the bird to a wildlife center. Its hard cause a lot of our mutual friends seem totally fine with it and supportive of him...

(I will definitely pass along the dumbass by the way. I am really frustrated with him. It really seems like he hasn't thought this through at all.)

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
If it was fully feathered but on the ground, it's a fledgling. Birds leave the nest before they can fly properly and spend a few days on the ground practicing, so chances are it isn't hurt or sick at all.

But yes, it would be in the bird's best interest if you guys could get it to a wildlife center. Wild birds are not meant to be pets. He'd be better off going to a pet store and getting a hand-raised baby parakeet if what he wants is a young bird who will be friendly and affectionate towards him.

Also, if he wants a bird of any sort, he needs to be prepared: they're LOUD, even parakeets.

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the bird info, I'm glad we at least probably aren't dealing with a sick bird. His roommate has been talking to him and apparently he knows its illegal but doesn't care, and with that being the case I don't know what we can do to convince him? It feels very morally wrong to me to just take a wild bird off the ground. It's a migratory bird and I don't think it should be cooped up...

Re: Birdy woes

(Anonymous) 2014-07-06 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Technically you could report him to animal control because it's illegal. Might teach him a thing or two about just picking up animals out of the wild.
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Re: Birdy woes

[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-07-06 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, i'd find a wildlife rehab place, and then just take the bird there, or have his roommate take it when he's not home. Fuck this guy - he's going to kill a baby bird by being an utter jackass, because it *will not* thrive on whatever crap he's going to feed it and it will die because it is *not a pet*.

Quit worrying about his feelings or whatever - he's deliberately killing an animal.