[ SECRET POST #2759 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2759 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, and anyone non-white should have to register because you know them blacks and the crime rates. Also them brown people and their terrorism.

I think you see why that's a bad idea, since being a mutant is an allegory for racism.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes but allegories are, at their cure, imperfect. If black people blew up buildings with their minds, you'd have a point.

The discrimination is an allegory for racism. The superpowers just make things cool while they do it.

[(Anonymous)]

Arabs blow up buildings with planes.

I have heard this logic as to why they should be tracked and registered in my lifetime.

I think you see why people are uncomfortable with that.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes but so do white people. Again, Arabs aren't born with a magical ability to control plains.

I do see why people are uncomfortable with that. I am uncomfortable with that. But mutants are a) fictitious and b) able to do things that cannot occur in the real world. You cannot say 'but in the real world that is bad because racism' when you don't know anyone in the real world with laserbeam eyes.

[(Anonymous)]

When it's an allegory for minorities who are born with things they can't help? Yes, yes I can. Because it tells me that if someone made a good enough "argument" you would go for it in real life because the entire series is based on the idea that no one should have to hide who they are, nor should the be discriminated against for something out of their control.

[mekkio]

No. A few individuals blew up buildings with planes. All you can fit in someone's living room. The rest of the Arabs just want to live their lives. They don't have bombs. They don't have guns. They just have 9 to 5 jobs and families to raise. It's not the same.

You have millions of mutants with powers, most of which can be turn into a weapon of some sort. They have no training and are running about doing god knows what. I want to know who they are and what they can do.

It would be more like how in the US you have to register and have a license in order have a gun. It is illegal to just take one and run around with it. People want to know whose weapon that is and what they are doing with it.

[(Anonymous)]

Lol, I'm sure the all the Islamic terrorists would take up more space than a room

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who has read the x-men comics, the issue is murky largly because Marvel has abandoned a lot of the gay and minority allegory in the x-men, and many storylines distance themselves from the allegory entirely.

In mutant's case many are born with entirely random or even detrimental powers, and when they activate for the first time can go out of control. Any racial allegory falls apart when you've got characters that can spontaneously emit lethal radiation on accident and nuke their entire school before they even realize what's wrong. Injury can also set off powers uncontrolled as well, as in Scott Summers case, you can have someone take a nasty fall and after recovering suddenly have no control over their power.

That's to say nothing of powers that are difficult to detect but potentially nation destroying like shapeshifting and mind control.

[a_potato]

Being Arab does not predispose a person to blow up planes -- or anything, for that matter.

Being a mutant can predispose you to blowing up things. Often without you even being in conscious control of what you're doing. That's why the allegory falls apart, and why a lot of minority and LGBTQ people don't like it.

It's a tricky issue, because humans do have a tendency to mistreat the people they fear. But I don't think a registration/monitoring program would be entirely out of line if X-Men-type mutants were real. We'd just have to be very, very careful about how we administered it.

[(Anonymous)]

Instead of focusing on race, what about a person who is a "patient zero", carrying a lethal virus, but not sick themselves? There isn't necessarily any intent in the possible transmission (though there could be). Is it discriminatory to quarantine them for the safety of the rest of the population?

[(Anonymous)]

That's pretty much what happened with the real Typhoid Mary. She was a typhoid carrier, and worse, she was a cook. The health department ended up locking her up permanently after she wouldn't stop working as a cook.

[(Anonymous)]

...it's an allegory for homosexuality, not racism.

[(Anonymous)]

it's both

[(Anonymous)]

It's an allegory for minorities in general. No single minority "owns" the X-Men.

[(Anonymous)]

Or rather, your fictional scenario would have a point. But anyone can have access to guns and planes, and the crime rate, as far as I know, isn't actually higher among black people.

[(Anonymous)]

and the crime rate, as far as I know, isn't actually higher among black people.

It is.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between crime rate and incarceration rate.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but racists aren't going to admit that. Instead they're going to see that there's a slightly higher crimerate among minorities and blame their race as opposed to poverty or other factors. Which is exactly the point.

It's a bad idea because it literally stems from racism.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, and that is where the allegory works. But if you own a gun, you have to be registered. If you own magic gun powers, you should also be registered.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, not all guns require registration.

[(Anonymous)]

I own a shitload of guns. None of them are registered. I personally do not have to be registered, either, unless I want to carry a concealed weapon on my person or in my vehicle.

So, no.

[(Anonymous)]

there's a slightly higher crimerate

Um...

[(Anonymous)]

There is. It's poverty-based, though, and you mostly have racial minorities living in poverty due to... Racism. So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Which is unfortunate.

[(Anonymous)]

But don't people generally have to register if they are going to own firearms? At least, don't you think they should? And people need IDs to ride planes and stuff, too.

[(Anonymous)]

Ehh, I don't think - especially with the new movies - "mutants" are really a great allegory for racism. Even if they were meant to parallel various marginalized groups. I think a better metaphor is sexual orientation, because it happens relatively randomly to anyone, from any family. It's not a race of people with a shared culture, heritage, etc.

And sexual orientation or race, neither group is a walking weapon of mass destruction. If mutants were real, the parallel to real marginalized groups gets pretty weak.