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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-08 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2775 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I find the backstories on these shows to be offensive in general. Not morally (not always morally), but aesthetically. I don't give a shit who these people are or whether they're military or if they had cancer five times. I want to see them perform and then I want to pass judgment like the almighty critic I am. The sob stories, even ones I relate to, actually turn me off to the point that I won't support people who have them.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well. You sound pretty terrible.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt, but I can see where they're coming from. As it's a talent competition, you should judge the contestants based on that alone. Talent. By providing "tragic backstories," you're introducing something that will sway the voters. Say there's two singers, Adam and Charlie. Adam is an amazing singer, is confident, and is just a swell guy. Charlie is a good singer, but not as good as Adam. He doesn't have the same range, and he doesn't seem very sure of himself on stage. But his mother recently passed away from cancer, his father left him as a baby, and now he has to take care of his three younger siblings, which he's hoping to accomplish by winning the competition. Adam, on the other hand, has no problems in his life and is surrounded by a loving family. The voters may feel sorry for Charlie and vote for him instead of Adam, even though Adam is the better singer.

They seem to forget that winning this competition gets you a show in Vegas. You're picking someone you would like to see preform there, not the one you feel the most sorry for. Who's to say that the winner is confident enough to preform there, let alone has enough material to maintain a show?

(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I should have said more in my first comment. I don't think it's wrong to judge based on talent. Contestants SHOULD be judged on their talent and not their backgrounds. But I think it's terrible to refuse to support someone for having a sob story. After all, that's not actually judging based on talent either, is it? It's no different from supporting the person with the saddest background.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
And you sound sentimental and silly. What's wrong with wanting to judge on talent? You think the sob story should be the decider? Please.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

No, I don't think the sob story should be the decider, and I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to judge on talent. What I think sounds terrible is refusing to support someone because they have a sob story. It's really dismissive and lacking in empathy, and...it isn't really judging based on talent either, is it? It's not really any different from supporting the person with the saddest story.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

For me at least, it's less that they have a sob story, more that they're constantly attempting to exploit their sob story for pity votes. That alone makes them unlikeable.

Though I'll also never root/vote for a pop singer or a child on AGT no matter what their talent is like, so.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know -- I find it kind of hilarious on Chopped when the contestants are obviously trying to out-sob-story each other in front of the judges. But then, I am naturally a hell-bound cynic.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-09 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
I get annoyed because I feel like in a show that is supposed to be competitive it gives an unfair advantage to them. Horrible things happen and I'm sorry that these people had to go through it, but it's not relevant to their talent. And there are people that will throw them a few sympathy votes. If they want to do these side stories, I'd be more interested in things that showcase their personality and who they are now as a person. Since the name of the game is to find someone that appeals to a wide audience, I feel like that would be more relevant than detailing their hardships.