[ SECRET POST #2903 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2903 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/uF0vJyY.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I wish I knew where this came from as well, OP. It wasn't so bad until people were saying it was completely canon but I can't seem to find anything.

[(Anonymous)]

when did anyone say that Loki is straight?

[(Anonymous)]

In the MCU he is, as far as we know.

[visp]

Eeeh... I think the movies have been pretty mute on the matter of Loki's sexuality. And in the absence of a clear statement, I think that Loki, traditionally-was-a-female-and-gave-birth-Loki, shapeshifted-into-a-woman-in-the-comics-Loki, should definitely be assumed to be queer, if not specifically gay/bi/genderfluid/whatever.

[dragonimp]

Does MCU Loki even have a sexuality? I know he made some remarks to Thor about Jane, but that seemed less like him lusting after her and more like him trying to get under Thor's skin. Other than that... I can't think of him showing any interest in anyone, male or female.

[(Anonymous)]

in the MCU he could pass as asexual, which is kind of weird given the particular character we're talking about

[morieris]

It's the incessant @ at people that gets to me.

[queerwolf]

this

[(Anonymous)]

steve is conventionally hot.

that's the reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's a really weird choice. There are a hell of a lot of MCU characters that would make a whole lot more canonical sense to be bi. Steve? I mean, there's nothing that says he's *not* bi, but picking him seems really bizarrely arbitrary.

I think it started like this...

[kallanda_lee]

As far as I can tell, it comes from Chris Evans having a gay brother and being hugely supportive of gay right - which, in, I do not know which context exactly, cause Samuel L. Jackson to joke about him being the first LGBT Captain America. Since there's Peggy, and he's clearly not lesbian or trans - bisexual seemed the logical option.

As for as I know, it started from there and took a life of its own.

I actually sort of like the idea, but some people are just delusional. And I'd be cool with a bi Bucky, too. Though realistically, I don't think they'll do either.

Re: I think it started like this...

[(Anonymous)]

It's really good and cool that this is happening. Creators need to know that they shouldn't in any way imply that a character is anything other than stereotypically straight and exactly in line with gender norms unless they're going to actively make them lgbt.

/sarcasm

Re: I think it started like this...

[(Anonymous)]

if men are lesbians, who are they attracted to???

[(Anonymous)]

I kind of understand why Steve is chosen. You can say it's looks (and that certainly plays a HUGE role) but given that Chris Hemsworth shares many of the same characteristics as Evans (tall, muscular, blond, great smile, etc.) yet we haven't seen this happen to Thor, I think it's something else.

I think, for a lot people, Steve is an ideal -- and he acts as this both in-universe and out of universe. He's the standard against which I imagine a lot of others measure themselves. In TWS, for example, one thing that I really noted was how much the other characters respected Steve. Natasha desperately wanted his approval while Sam clearly liked him and was deferential ("I do what he does, just slower"). Because of that, I think people really latch on to Steve because they want to be like him and, not only that, but they want HIM to be like THEM.

Out of all the Avengers, I think Steve is by far the most to be defined by his goodness. He isn't a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist, a scientist with "anger management issues," a prince of a foreign realm, a redeemed Russian spy/master assassin, etc. He is, above all, a good man. And this is where his strength stems from -- what Erskine's serum amplified. I think a lot of people find that really compelling and want a man who is defined by his goodness to be bisexual as well.

[(Anonymous)]

every time someone suggests that BUCKY BABY IS JUST SOOOOO DIFFRENT FROM THE COMIC BOOKS AND VERY VERY GAY AW OMG YESSSS HE MUST BE I laugh so. fucking. hard. have you ever seen a delusion so epic? not since HP fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing can top the delusional fans that are Supernatural fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

what is it with sjws and wanting to force preestablished characters into being either gay, women or a poc? Make up your own characters ffs. This is just embarrassing and when it doesn't happen they'll cry oppression.

[(Anonymous)]

This so much.

We want #BisexualFitz @Marvel @agentsofSHIELD @ABC

[(Anonymous)]

In the case of preexisting characters that are "turned" LGBT afterwards, I think it's even a bit disrespectful to the original creators. I get it, sticking it to bigoted assholes by making their super macho characters gay/bi is really tempting. But there are also non-bigoted writers and changing the sexuality/gender/etc. is still a big thing, even if it's not offensive.

[loracarol]

Man, I love this headcanon, but I am getting so tired of the smarmy "Someone should tell Marvel that Steve is canonically bi" jokes.

Like, I get they're jokes, but that's the problem; Steve's not canonically bi, just like Katniss isn't canonically aro/ace/native american (or whatever is going around now).

There isn't any canonical representation, and that's a problem that needs to be discussed, not pretending that these character traits are ~totally canon~.

Plus the attitude just drips with "well, the writers were too dumb to realize this about their own characters" which just drives me up the wall.

I mean, if they made Steve canonically bi, I would TOTALLY be down for it except them you'd probably get people complaining about how he should be pan instead, or making him bi was chickening out of making him fully gay, and I think it would be a really interesting turn on the character, but the fact is, right now it's not canon, and claiming that it's ~totally canon~ doesn't actually do anything. At all.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is a really good point. I also have to say that as much as I like the idea of canon bisexual Steve, the entitlement of fans gets under my skin.

At the end of the day, these aren't our characters. They're Marvel's and we don't get to dictate what's done with them.

I still love bisexual Steve in fanfic and I think it's okay for fans to say that they'd like this to be canon, but *demanding* that it be so crosses a line.

Katniss isn't Native American?

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't read the books, but I had the impression she was meant to be part native or otherwise mixed.

No idea on the aro.

[nightscale]

I do love the bi Steve headcanon but it's not canon, and I think people just get carried away and kind of forget that sometimes(the fandom echo-chamber doesn't help matters either). It's the same with the 'Bucky was drafted' headcanon, I've seen people treating it as actual canon and no, it's not, it's a cool idea to play with but it's not canon.

[kallanda_lee]

Gawd, yes, I just saw this the other day, and someone actually went to the trouble of looking at his number and digging through historical records, and saying the number apparently mean he was drafted.

I mean, cool headcanon, there's something to be said for it - but it's never mentioned in the MCU either way, and comic book Buck very much isn't.