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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-04 03:55 pm

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-04 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This. The fundamental problem with Tumblr is its TERRIBLE user interface. At least, that's what it is for me...it's why I can never get into it. I have a Tumblr blog, I use it maybe...once every couple of months? But I cannot get into it on a serious level, at all.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-04 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I post every day or two, but am trying to pull back, just because I feel like shit when I'm on it, and that's no way to play on the Internet.

The autoplaying video thing was kinda the last straw for me; it coincided with the Ferguson horrorshow, which meant I got a TON of untagged, graphic police brutality videos autoplaying on my dash. SURPRISE!

And then my ancient computer started lagging so bad due to all the vids autoplaying that it took me a while to close the window. THANKS TUMBLR.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-04 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow, that is awful. People not tagging is also one of the awful things about Tumblr. And video auto-play is really stupid in general, like...why?? (I wish Facebook would stop doing it too, but at least with FB it's only when you hover over the vid, not just it appearing on your news feed)
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-04 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I KNOW. Like, missing tags, that's a mistake everyone does, but some people were getting self-righteous about it, as though not wanting to see graphic violence without warning was a sign of NOT CARING.

(Because you know, if I were someone who'd survived police brutality, that's TOTALLY the kind of shit I'd appreciate, people shoving graphic videos of it in my face to score some kind of soapbox points.)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Even if it's not graphic violence I kind of hate the mentality that not wanting to see it = not caring. I appreciate that people spread information and signal boost (though I won't get into the amount of misinformation that gets spread around tumblr...) but you know, some days I do want... A BREAK. And considering tumblr has a fandom and fun element, that is primarily what I like to use it for.

And graphic violence? Nope, not ever. I don't like things that try to shock you into caring, I don't need to see the images to care, and if you post something too graphic I'm actually LESS likely to read an article because it will make me feel so ill that I'll have to close the window.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-04 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I don't believe that most folks HAVE that mentality, so much as they want to DISPLAY their presumed cred. They think they're being so activist and edgy when actually, all they're doing is click 'reblog.' It allows them to invest the act with far more significance than it actually has.

And yeah, I definitely need breaks from it. And uuuuuugh the misinformation. *has done a few debunking things, which of course didn't get reblogged because I guess that's just not as thrilling*

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I dislike the SJ everywhere on tumblr for that reason... I just want to have fandom-y fun, I get exhausted by all the terrible news all the time. I miss forums more than LJ, tbh; if you wanted to talk about politics or whatnot, you choose that thread. But otherwise you could just choose a thread devoted to a certain TV show, for example, and chill.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that's at least one reason why I hate that tumblr has no real organization system, before it was a bit easier to go to a site or a forum or chat room and know it was going to be dedicated to whatever you're in the mood to discuss. Things could go OT but it's easier to ignore a thread then it is to ignore a post that isn't even under a cut.

Tumblr just throws random things at you and expects you to look at ALL of it. I wish there was a way to group who I follow, I would follow so many more people if tumblr was even slightly organized.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-05 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
When asked, I have described tumblr as The Waterfall O' Stuff. You just stand there and have STUFF pour down on you, and sure, if you stand there long enough, something interesting is bound to fall on your head, but good luck organizing it, searching for it, or ever finding it again later.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish that mindset wasn't so common.
I even had to stop following someone after they refused to tag some post with videos and photos of executions because "everyone needs to know!"
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-04 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's part of why I'm pulling away from tumblr. That and shit like, "cutting off toxic people from your life is a social privilege!" It's like, fuck you, I became homeless doing that, don't tell me it was MY PRIVILEGE.

My general rule is, if someone who experienced what you're posting about sees your post, how would they feel? If the answer is horrified or retraumatized, RETHINK YOUR POST.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I think that sums up a lot of what's fucked up about Tumblr; they're too concerned with appearing empathetic and caring that they're actually neither. Most of them haven't got the first iota of experience with the causes they're trumpeting, but still seem to think they know better than those actually experiencing it.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-04 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Bingo. It's a problem a lot of places have, but with the tumblr reblog system and the mass social justice things there, it becomes really painfully apparent.

I think my biggest, "really guys? REALLY?" was when I had to debunk this idea that a certain term was coined by a certain marginalized population and could ONLY be used by them. I got asked by a couple baby anons (and I'm glad they asked, rather than just swallowing it wholesale) and I was able to debunk it with like, five seconds on PubMed. And then I left a longer, more thorough post about it, because I knew that I had the correct labels and street cred to challenge this bullshit without getting trolled.

It really bothers me, the sort of theme there that to question ANY sort of social justice thing is bigotry, unless you have the correct identity labels. Like, I get where it's coming from, but no seriously, the ability to critically reason is SO NECESSARY.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-05 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think people got really rabid with the stuff that happened recently and while caring a lot is a very good thing and talking about it is a very good thing the tunnel vision that goes along with it - especially on a place like Tumblr - can get destructive. :(
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-05 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely. And combined with a few other social rules of tumblr, it makes it very easy to get taken in by hoaxes and manipulators.

I mean, when ANDY BLAKE is taking your side in an argument, and getting involved, that's a sign to be alarmed.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-01-05 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Andy Blake...isn't he the guy with half a dozen aliases who tried to get that one lady to run away to Canada with him? and who is overall a hot mess with a side of creepy?
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-05 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, that's like, barely the icing on that particular shit cake.

Dude has run multiple cults, claimed to channel hobbits and WWII child soldiers who also happened to be the kids from Narnia, and is so fucking creepy you don't even know. And he's still doing it, just moved to tumblr because it's harder to pin things on him there. There are a bunch of tumblrs that popped up purely to keep an eye on him.

Here's a bunch of links about it. I warn you, once you start reading, you won't be able to stop. I started reading back in the summer and it's blossomed into an interest in thought reform and cult behavior.

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TW: Rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Urgh, yes. I was doing fairly well avoiding this sort of stuff, just following blogs that posted cool art and funny gifs in my fandom, then a couple of discussions crept up calling one of my favourite characters a rapist because of a couple of fail!flirting lines he has.

I got triggered badly. I lost an entire day and night to panic attacks and being too depressed to move. I was in a whole shame spiral about maybe it being me and I was an apologist or something.

When the trigger was finally manageable and I applied logic to it; he isn't. He won't do any sexual stuff without enthusiastic consent, and double-checks consent every time you have a convo with him. He and another NPC may hook up depending on your game state. Ill-informed people on Tumblr believe that's rape because the other NPC was drunk. Except there's no indication whatsoever in canon dialogue that the NPC was drunk. By all canon accounts it was an enjoyable, happy, sober time for both.

So yeah, people seem to care more about stamping PROBLEMATIC on a character's head than whichever real person they might be affecting with their awful bullshit.
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Re: TW: Rape discussion

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-05 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and even so, someone's taste in characters doesn't necessarily say anything about their morals as a person. I like PLENTY of characters whose behavior I totally disapprove of! If I only wrote characters whose behavior I endorsed, my writing would be scant indeed.

Again, it wouldn't be so bad if you could just filter shit easier, but it's tumblr, so it's like being unable to turn the volume down.

Re: TW: Rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
i know what you're referring to and god, that entire discussion was bullshit from start to finish, and so was their "evidence". (which sort of makes sense when taken out of context - which is how it was presented - but only if you have no idea what's actually going on. if you know what's really going on, it becomes apparent that it's just grade-a bullshit.)

Re: TW: Rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Too right, fellow anon. I care deeply about actual social justice issues (sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc.) so I'm hesitant to complain about social justice warriors. But when people do stuff like this and stuff mentioned above with no trigger warnings, it becomes a caricature of itself. You can campaign for equal rights without shitting all over other people who don't have as much social justice cred as you. And without making fandoms, which are meant to be fun, a hostile place for people to be.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2015-01-05 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I've had issues with various sites autoplaying. For me, it was actually ads that started this, but with Tumblr and FB now auto-playing (or at least FB sometimes does), I am SO glad for the FlashBlock extension for Chrome. It exists for Firefox too. I actually have two installed, because FlashBlock didn't catch everything -- probably 95% of it, but auto-play annoys me SO MUCH that I installed another one (FlashControl), and... well, it means that to watch a flash video, I often need to click twice to run the video.

I know it's, uh, late, but in case anyone actually is reading this, I'd really make it a strong suggestion with Tumblr, esp with the graphic police brutality shit going on -- which, I think is very important to post about and be spread, but I don't want to be scrolling down and automatically have that playing! The other common one (at least on my friends list, and probably more common on FB than Tumblr) is animal abuse videos, and no... I don't want auto-play of ANY OF THAT. If it's something I feel I need to watch, I want to be able to actively CHOOSE to watch it, and take anti-anxiety meds beforehand because damn, I am gonna need em.

I mean, this doesn't solve the other issues with Tumblr, which I could go on a whole rant about, but it sounds like auto-play is a really big issue for you, and one of these extensions would stop that. And I hear you on the computer lagging. I have a very GOOD machine, and even MINE would lag at that; it'll lag trying to load when people make a huuuuuuge animated gif post, which is one part internet, one part computer going YOU ALREADY HAVE A HUNDRED TABS OPEN AND YOU'RE DOING THIS TO ME NOW, FUCK YOU, HAVE SHITTY LOAD TIME. (Caps not meant to be yell-y at you, just how I imagine my computer responding... LOL.)
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-05 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what, that's the second rec I've had for FlashBlock, and I think I'm going to install it. My computer is nine years old and slightly possessed, I don't want to make it miserable with autoplay vids.

Seriously though, why do sites think this is a good idea? Do they think everyone on earth has a fast connection and a sleek speedy machine? Come on!

(And this is why I make my websites dial-up and text-only browser friendly.)

...aw. Turns out the tumblr autoplay videos aren't all Flash. *sadface*

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think companies just figure if you don't have a fast machine you're not a meaningful part of the demo and not really worth caring about
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-05 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently. -_- That or they assume since the DESIGNERS have great machines, surely the audience does too!