[ SECRET POST #360 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #360 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 192 secrets from Secret Submission Post #052.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 linked back to the page ] broken links, [ 1 2 ] not!secrets, [ 1? 2? ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] repeats, [ 1 ] probably not for real.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Tuesday, January 1st, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[batmarg.livejournal.com]

7. I seriously want to read that, and the movie will make me want to even more.

15. I like the series, but it does have some very dull points...not sure why I like it as much as i do.

21. He made me seriously consider it, but I decided against it.

30. WIN. *doesn't even like Yaoi either*

OP of 7

[(Anonymous)]

Well that's good. It's a really interesting book, hope the movie turns out to be good. :)

[flowerofsin.livejournal.com]

9. It was pretty hot.

16. Do they go to fictional hell for not being Christian, then? I just can't take this secret seriously. It's nice to know what you think of your non-Christian friends, though.

34. YOSH!

35. That was my favorite pairing in that series.

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[shadsie.livejournal.com]

... I'm not even a part of this community, I just have been lurking more frequently since I got a better internet connection and can actually *see* the secrets.

I only skimmed this thread - saw 16 and immediately thought "Oh, crap, this poor person is going to get reamed." I skimmed the first three pages of comments, and I was right.

I actually have some writing advice for the OP, if they are willing to listen to it.

I am a Christian, too, though probably not a good one (haven't been to church in over a year, I think, have a few beliefs that my old Baptist church probably wouldn't like...) Now, I think your sentiment is very cute, and I'd be lying if I said I hadn't felt the same way at times. However, I remember that the characters I work with are fiction and that their eternal destinies are whatever their earthly creators have in mind - if they have anything in mind at all. Of course, many characters live in worlds very different than ours with different kinds of religions and worldsets/i.e. "Christianity doesn't apply."

I tend to think "Good characters will have a favorable afterlife if any because that's probably what their creator has in mind." In any case, they are fiction, so it's not really worth worrying about.

As far as writing the spiritual lives of characters, however - be careful. Very few people like preaching, even those who share your religion (I dislike it). Conversion fics are especially difficult, and appeal to a limited auience (the rest will generally flame you, as I'm sure you know). My advice is to stick with characters where it is plausible. Say, a canon wherein a character who is not portrayed as particularly religious, but has a scene where, depressed, he goes into a Christian church seeking the forgiveness of God, perhaps he decides that he is unforgivable, but I'd say that writing this character as a Christian in a fic that draws his spiritual side out would be believable.

Edward Elric, of FMA, who outright proclaims that he "doesn't believe in God" is going to be much, much harder to work with. You'd have to have a LOT of exposition as to why he'd even consider converting and it would be very difficult.

The characters of "Avatar: The Last Airbender" - well, I wouldn't even bring Christianity into the picture. They live in their own world with its own mythology and spiritual goings on, Christianity (like any "our Earth" religion) is no doubt unheard of and to bring it in there would constitue a complete messing with the world.

Privately? Think what you wish, come up with any fantasies about your favorite characters that you wish, but it's not always a wise idea to write out and share those fantasies. Religion in fanfics is something you have to be careful with. Sometimes, it *does* constitute a complete out of character change for a character - it's not to say it can't be done, but it takes work to be believable to most, and some will never be convinced. It's kind of like shipping - no matter what you do, be prepared for detractors. In the end, if you choose to write of it, it is best to try to explore it in characters who are already of the religion in their canon, or who are close to it/where it doesn't seem like it would be a great leap. Even then, it takes a delicate hand not to offend a majority.

Re: 16

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

Good post. Shame it's buried all the way on page 6. I give it my Agnostic Stamp of Approval.

Write however you wish to write. There'll always be haters, but hey--if it makes you happy, keep on trucking. No one's making them read your fics. Conversely, no one's making them like it, despite your best efforts. Just be prepared for flames.

In after a lot of atheists who seem to take fanfic way too seriously.

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[koshou-panda.livejournal.com]

Ugh, I agree. I only read the first book and thought it was terrible.

...and kind of unintentionally hilarious. Glittery vampires with magical color changing eyes and a mary sue main character whose only fault is "clumsiness"? HAHAHAHAHA.

Sad thing is, my sister loves loves books. D= WTF.

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[auriatetsukai.livejournal.com]

I agree with you so hard. I saw the trailer online and then when I saw the Golden Compass, and both times I just cringed. Luckily, all of my friends have read the books, so pimping isn't an issue.

I just hope the movie doesn't flop as bad as The Dark is Rising.

[jblankbluth.livejournal.com]

15. I wanted to punch everyone who said it was the next Harry Potter. Then I actually picked up the novel, tried to read it...wanted to kill anyone who said it was the next Harry Potter.

[callmejude.livejournal.com]

ME, TOO. HOLY SHIT, I HATE THAT PEOPLE CALL IT THAT! I even read it and I hate that people call it that.

(I still agree with the secret, but I read it. I hate the series, but something about it keeps me reading. It's quite infuriating, actually.)

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[olesia]

I've been shipped with Bowie before.

BY MY PARENTS.

;___;

[at least it was better than the conversation where they shipped me with Keith Richards. BAD TIMES]

[(Anonymous)]

I know I'm liking the sound of that. I'm willing to bet there's an pretty good untapped market there, too, if someone would just tap it already, for spaghetti's sakes. (In English, that is.) It's just cruel to see that it's there, but it's essentially unreachable due to the language barrier.

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[(Anonymous)]

Drat. Above was for number 5.

[chaoticchicken.livejournal.com]

5. LAMENTO SECRET. ♥ I'm an avid hater of yaoi, but I love this game to bits. Even if I don't understand 90% of it. Where's my fellow Rai fans? ;_;

16. In after shitstorm, a lot of dumbass replies, and hypocrisy.

15 + 19. Yes, we get it. The books suck. Can the fans go back to enjoying it without a bunch of asses raining on our parade?

[horriblematzo.livejournal.com]

7. INKHEART!!!! And, I sorta agree :(

[queenie-z.livejournal.com]

14. I lol'd. I just read that in English last semester. 8U

16. They are just fictional characters, and you don't need to waste your energy on them like that. You can avoid religious topics in your fic if it makes you uncomfortable. But whenever a secret is posted that says someone's a Christian, I feel a little less alone in fandom. Thanks. :)

25. Anonymous is by definition pedo.

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[quaedam.livejournal.com]

31. Hey, if there should be a Hitchcock fandom, there really should be a David Lynch fandom. On the other hand, maybe what puts people off is the fact that you almost couldn't possibly get crazier or more suggestive than the source material. ^^

34. >:D

31--OP here

[icarus_suraki]

...but that's what makes it so good? :D s'teL kcor!

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[(Anonymous)]

As someone who posted the last one of these secrets, I do agree with what you're saying in most cases.

However, in most cases you're reading people wrong. It's not a random fan thing. There's always going to be bad fanfiction and art and bad RPers. For me, it was a FRIEND. It was a matter of dealing with someone, yes, practically force feeding by constantly bothering me via IM and giving guilt trips. It's not like I hate my fandoms or the characters now. I just can't actively fan them without feeling uncomfortable. I got burnt out. So, the problem is, after getting into fights over the friend driving me crazy in the first fandom, and no longer being friends with them, it's scary to see them in another fandom, because they may do the same thing to mutual friends or other people, etc.

I think most people who complain about other ruining their fandom are talking about ex-friends rather than random fic. You'd never be able to stay in fandoms if random people could ruin it for you.

Re: 38.

[(Anonymous)]

The poster of 38 isn't reading anyone wrong.

Very few of the fandom whiners are *personally* involved with the fans they whine about.
There are entire communities devoted to fandom whining.
They simply take fandom too seriously and can't tolerate people who don't agree with them.

[hopelikefever.livejournal.com]

1. My favorite Mii that I've made is Rock Mii. He is sexy, and in the springtime of his youth. WHOO! I have a Light, an L, the entire Host Club, and a shitload of Phoenix Wright characters, too. My original character count?

...is at 2. >>

5. I bought a figure of Kanoe because he is absolutely gorgeous. I don't know anything about that game and he is my preciousssss.

23. I've thought that since the movie came out, too. ;o; I always try and do interesting things because of that, but most of the time I end up failing and sitting at my computer. 'sall good.

35. YESSSSS. I love that pairing. I love Dio. Dioooooo. ;o; Squee anyway, because Dio loves Claus hardcore. Even if it's just admiration/puppy!love. D'aww. ♥

[hopelikefever.livejournal.com]

Also, 13. Yeah, Incest rubs me the wrong way, too. I mean, it's fine if people ship the twins together, but I don't like it when they think that all the BS they pull in the club is their real selves. They don't act like that normally; it's just their way of letting little girls into the world that they've created for themselves.

Granted, there is a lot of stuff that can be played with (after all, they do seem a bit... close, even if they are siblings), but if those issues aren't addressed and you seriously think it's canon, then I have a bit of a problem.

33;

[aigis.livejournal.com]

i am honored.

[girlshy.livejournal.com]

3. You are awesome. Full stop. I really respect this.

22. Totally agree with your overall point...but maybe not the execution. Sorry. 'Focus on what you love' instead of angsting about the preferred fandoms of the readers.

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[dreaming-faerie.livejournal.com]

9. Me too. I thought that was so hot and it turned me on. Of course, my boyfriend is scared of me now, but it's still so hot.

17. My boyfriend and I totally agree. He kept bugging me to read the book and for good reason! I thought it was a lot more powerful, especially the end.

[the-loyal-fox.livejournal.com]

9) sweet jesus I know that feeling. That was such a hot awesome part

[talyafera.livejournal.com]

16. That's the cutest thing I've ever heard. <3

[karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com]

16. And yet, somehow you manage to live knowing that real people – people you know, probably many of whom you like – are going there. Interesting.

No. 26

[nanyakanya.livejournal.com]

Holy shit, Night Watch secret!

Plz to be marrying me. ♥

[theladyfeylene.livejournal.com]

30. HA! I know who you are! And I totally have 600 words of that fic on my hard-drive. YOUR DREAM SHALL BE A REALITY!

[(Anonymous)]

?

I don't think we know each other. But yay?

[mabis.livejournal.com]

36. Kaiji is the second most awesome thing this planet has ever seen. (I believe nothing will be able to top the awesomeness of Akagi, although Kaiji comes damn close.)

[callmejude.livejournal.com]

22. Agreed! Jesus, I mean, I didn't love the prequels, but I liked them, because they helped me understand certain stuff better that I wouldn't have gotten without them there - not to mention I just liked seeing the way they did stuff to actually make it look like a different time (like the way they fixed Ani's hand vs. the way they fixed Luke's.) People who go insane about how terrible the new trilogy is drive me mad. I mean, I'll always be faithful to the originals, but give me a break.

[fyretoppaaa.livejournal.com]

Quick 2c before bed. |D

5. I keep trying to play Togainu no Chi (that's Lamento, isn't it?), but. Uh. D: IT DOESN'T WORK. CAN ANYONE HELP ME TROUBLESHOOT orz. /phail

24. First thought: lfJLASKJFLAJGLKJWGLKJKLAWJEG SILVA. SHAMAN KING ON F!S. I-I love you, whoever you are. D: Since rereading SK, I've become such a big Silva fan and I don't even know why. sdlkfjlsjklksjadas;kljasdf

... Also Norrington = Silva is quite possibly the funniest mental image(s) ever. XD

oh, 35

[fyretoppaaa.livejournal.com]

I missed a big chunk of LE (Dio's birthday and everything! T_T) that I need to fill in, but... hum. That's part of why I haven't really shipped or been in that fandom much. But I kind of got turned off Claus once every girl aboard the Silvana and off it fell for him, it seemed like. >>;