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[ SECRET POST #2976 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2976 ⌋

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[Homestuck]

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[NCIS: Los Angeles/Hawaii Five-0]

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[Left Shark (Katy Perry? Super Bowl?) and Bad-Dragon .com]

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[hindsight]

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I never understood the het shippers who were obsessed with canon validation (Zutarans, Harmonians, etc.) until I actually shipped a het pairing myself.

M/M or F/F shippers in the popular fandoms know (mostly) that their pairing will never be canon. They might hope that it will be canon, but they know it won't be. Aside from ship wars, nobody cares.

Het pairings? As long as it's not taboo for some reason, any het pairing can be argued for and could become canon without alienating the audience. There's always that chance that you'll actually see your OTP happen, if only you love it hard enough.

I get it.

…and so, as a result, I'm sticking to M/M and F/F pairings from now on. They're much less stressful.

M/M or F/F shippers in the popular fandoms know (mostly) that their pairing will never be canon.

UN
             TIL
a miracle occurs!
AND
         IT
                    HAPPENS

and then everything is joy and rainbows like you've never even imagined. :D

*looks at your icon*

*looks at your post*

I get the feeling you're trying to make some sort of point here, but I just can't put my finger on what it is exactly.

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) - 2015-03-05 17:44 (UTC) - Expand

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solarbird - 2015-03-05 19:04 (UTC) - Expand

How hard you love it has no effect on whether or not it happens. Or at least, it shouldn't.

This is not supposed to be some wish-upon-a-star bullshit.

I have seen people thinking they are entitled of their OTP becoming canon because they white knight the author and his/her work ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited 2015-02-27 01:55 (UTC)

This secret is really sad, talking about m/m and f/f shippers knowing their ship will never be canon.

It just made me really sad and I can't even really articulate the reason.

I know what you mean.

It does mean that it owns when it actually happens, though (I always think of that time nursejoy was watching American Hustle)

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fingalsanteater - 2015-02-27 00:49 (UTC) - Expand

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sarillia - 2015-02-27 01:01 (UTC) - Expand

Same. :(

:( We may wish and get excited over subtext but tbh I don't think any korrasami fan actually expected it to be confirmed canon in the finale and I'll return to my jaded ways in the next fandom :(

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fingalsanteater - 2015-02-27 00:51 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2015-02-27 08:45 (UTC) - Expand

IDK, sometimes I'm relieved my m/m or f/f ships (those that aren't actually set-up as being potential m/m or f/f within canon, I mean, i.e. the characters aren't currently known to be gay/bi etc.) are highly unlikely to become canon. I just see the potential for terrible writing making the whole thing cringeworthy, an influx of SJW's into the fandom hating on it for "not doing it right" or "doing it in a way we don't 100% approve of."

As much as I'd love more representation, I don't want my ships tainted by that crap either.

But then I never like it much when a het ship becomes offical canon either, so I'm probably in the minority.

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intrigueing - 2015-02-27 02:25 (UTC) - Expand

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ketita - 2015-02-27 05:51 (UTC) - Expand

quite a few of my gay ships became canon so things are looking up i think.

Nah, being a het shipper doesn't magically make you... whatever you call one of those people.

Personally, I've always preferred what used to be called 'unconventional couples' (I've been in fandom a long time). It's always seemed more fannish to me to take two people who don't have a relationship in canon, put them together, and write fic about them.

Oh man, "unconventional couples." I remember that phrase from my Roswell days.

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otakugal15 - 2015-02-27 01:56 (UTC) - Expand

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anonymous4 - 2015-02-27 03:34 (UTC) - Expand

I used to ship UC all the time.

It's always seemed more fannish to me to take two people who don't have a relationship in canon, put them together, and write fic about them.

For me, that's always been why I turn to fandom and fanfic in the first place.

If I want to see the canon couples interact, then I can consume canon for that. It's much less fun for me to explore things that have already been set in stone that way, because you're always aware that you're going against the "official" line.

When it comes to non-canon couples (whether it's slash or het)then there's so much more to explore and play the "what ifs" with. Usually, much less has been stated concretely about how their relationship would play out, so there's much more material to play with as a fanficcer.

Any het (and in some and thankfully more lately any slash or femslash) pairing can be canon until canon shows us what the canon pairings will be. What is important is how people act once their ship does or doesn't become canon. Don't be an ass. Don't try to ruin it for other shippers. Don't make it personal either for other fans or for the creator. Don't rub it in if you are canon and don't sulk and insist that you're ship objectively should have been canon if you aren't canon.

Basically, don't be an ass. Hoping your pairing will be canon is one thing. Being an ass once canon is set is not.

I've shipped quite a few het pairings, and I still do not understand the craziness of shippers like Zutarians and Harmonians, sorry.

I guess they feel like they interpreted things wrong? I mean, it must be really embarrasing to engage in discussions, write meta of your OTP and make headcanons just to be proven wrong in the end. Zutara, Harmony, NaruSaku and Taiora shippers have in common not just that their OTP didn't become a reality in the end but each part of their OTP married and had childrens with another person. Of course that doesn't justify the rabidness of those shippers but make their actitude a little more understable.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-02-27 01:05 (UTC) - Expand

I was a het-shipper in my early days of fandom and I still don't get the really extreme shippers of any kind, like being enthusiastic is one thing but being dicks to shippers of an opposing ship was never something I was okay with.

I just want everyone to get along, we're all in this dumb boat together. :(

IDK I always had a very difficult time understanding how anybody could take the Harry/Hermione ship seriously. Even knowing that Harry and Hermione are straight, it didn't make that pairing any more plausible than Snape and Dumbledore or any other odd pairings.

I think some people see a man and woman (or boy and girl) in close proximity and immediately think "Ship!" And media has totally trained that into people, so I don't blame them. They're the same age, friends, major characters, and opposite sex, that's all you're supposed to need!

Personally it seemed clear to me that Harry/Ginny was an endgame ship, but I didn't know if Ron/Hermione would be.

And that is why I quit shows like Big Bang Theory. There WAS good stuff and friendship to build on between Penny and Sheldon in the early seasons, but the writers/creators preferred Nice Guy Leonard and then had to add in Amy and....I gave up.

I ship a lot of het couples, and I still don't get this. Hell, my favorite het couple isn't canon and I don't care.

I also don't understand how people can choose which couples to ship. I either feel it or I don't. I can't force myself to like a couple and I can't force myself to dislike a couple.

I have had times when I have shipped a canon ship in a fandom with ongoing canon and... it's stressful. I find I either get tired of waiting to see what will happen to them next or tired of how they are written all together.

I have been a slasher and a non-canon shipper most of the time and I find it far easier, as I can sit back and say "My ship is non-canon and I'm happy with that!" and stay outside the shipping wars.

On a minor side note, I mildly ship Harry/Hermione and I find Harmonians ridiculous. I also find they write their fics in a way that feels like they are saying "Of course they get together and love each other! It's so obvious I don't have to explain it!".

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