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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-06 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3015 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3015 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Puzzle & Dragons (Japanese Mobile Phone game)]


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03.
[Thunderbirds]


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04.
[Avenged Sevenfold]


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05.
[Umineko no Naku Koro ni]


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(Donald Tusk, President Of The European Council)


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[The Hobbit]


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08.
[Nicholas Lea]


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[Vocaloid]


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[Grimm/Angel]


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(the Tale of the Princess Kaguya)


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[Jimmy Carr and Sarah Millican]


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[The Phantom of the Opera]


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[How to get away with murder/Liza Weil]


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15.
[Once Upon a Time]


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[Inazuma Eleven]


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(Aiden Turner in Poldark)


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18.
[Star Trek: Into Darkness]


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19.
[Nathan Fillion]


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20.
[Harry Potter]


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[Sherlock]


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[MCU/The Avengers (film series)]


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[Gillian Anderson]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 106 secrets from Secret Submission Post #431.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I refuse to label anyone as anything unless they label themselves, but for exactly the opposite reason than everyone else: I refuse to give queer cred to anyone who doesn't have the guts to name a spade a spade. I'm so tired of this lukewarm 'Oh I had gay experiences but I wouldn't label myself as gay or bi!' Either come out of the closet or don't, otherwise it feels like a cheep publicity stunt.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-04-06 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with is that for a bunch of people it's a real thing:they have those experiences, but they're not feeling equal attraction, so it's different identity-wise. If your attractions are say, 10% same-sex and 90% opposite sex, you might simply feel it's disgenuine to call yourself bi. In any case it's a personal decision.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool, which is why I'm not going to label them as bi but as straight. Because they're not labeling themselves as bi.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-04-06 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's fair enough - but it's also fair enough if they choose not to label themselves because of that.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh do shut up

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Come out of the closet, honey, it's comfier out there.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-04-06 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
NO

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm quite straight, thank you.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh please. "Queer cred", "doesn't have the guts"

You're being really shitty about this.

People can have all sorts of reasons for not wanting to claim a label despite their feelings. Maybe they don't feel that their attraction to the same gender is strong enough. Maybe they're unsure about what they think they are.

It's shitty to tell people that they have to take a label or they're cowards or just seeking publicity or something. You don't know their reasons or the story behind it.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-04-07 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Basically this.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-06 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what? Fuck you. It's partly because of people like you, with ridiculous notions of "queer cred," that so many bi people DON'T come out of the closet.

Oh, you've mostly been with men? You're not REALLY bi, then. You're just gay and you won't admit it/you're just straight and you're trying to get attention from men. Oh, you've mostly been with women? You're not REALLY bi, then. You're just lesbian and you won't admit it/you're just straight but you're a pussy.

Oh, you're bi? Get the fuck out of our space, traitor. Go be with your own kind and leave the REAL lesbians alone. You having a dick in you has tainted you. You're disgusting.

Oh, you're bi? You'll totally be in a threesome with me, right? Also, uh, I can't really date you because you're just gonna cheat on me. Everyone knows bi people can't stay faithful.

Oh, you're bi? Ew, that's so gross, I need a REAL man.

Oh, you're bi? That's bullshit, men can't be bi. You're just too much of a coward to come out. Piss off.

So fuck you saying it's "comfier" to be out of the closet. It's NOT. It's an endless parade of shit from all sides, people making assumptions about you and treating you like you're an intruder or a fake or something disgusting and worthless. And now you come along and dangle "queer cred" around like it's something fucking medal that YOU, oh super special wonderful sparkly you, get to dish out to people that YOU find deserving. Just like every single other fuck who makes us run back into the closet.

Fuck. You.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
+1,000,000

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I think you listed all the reasons I don't date bi people in one breath, lol.

But no seriously, the fidelity one is a huge turn-off. At some level, bisexuals will crave the gender I'm not and I don't want to deal with that. Just like how hetero/homo or asexual/sexual is a bad matchup, so is bisexual/monosexual (er, whatever the term is). Not saying it can't work out, just that the non-bisexual party might end up feeling inadequate.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-04-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Well, congratulations on proving their complaints are legitimate!

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
"Monosexual" was popularized by a bi woman trying to drum up gay vs bi controversy so she could sell more copies of her book.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
What?

Seriously? That doesn't make sense. All bisexuality means is that you can or are capable of feeling attraction to either genders.

By that logic I could claim that my boyfriend being able to feel attraction to women means he could be attracted to women other than me and thus make me feel inadequate.

You sound like a paper skinned, and ignorant egomaniac. Thanks for admitting it so people know to be wary of you.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

...holy shit, all of what I listed is bullshit! That was the entire point!

A bisexual person is not more likely to cheat than someone who isn't bisexual. That's completely fucking ridiculous. Yeah, they'd still be attracted to people of the gender that you're not, but that doesn't mean they're going to cheat. If you're dating someone who's your same sexuality, then guess what? They're not gonna suddenly stop being attracted to other people. They might even find some other people more attractive than you. Yet that doesn't make you assume EVERYONE is incapable of fidelity, does it?

Look, dude, replace "bisexual" with a member of some other group, and replace everything I said with stereotypes about that group, and imagine someone saying in response, "you just listed all the reason I don't date men/women/black people/Asian people/Hispanic people/Arab people/Indian people/First Nations people/etc, in one breath, lol," and tell me you wouldn't side-eye the fuck out of that person.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Wha..?

I'm sorry to say, but feeling inadequate is all in your own head. As others have said, claiming that bisexuals will always "crave" the gender that their partner isn't is like saying that any man (or woman) you date will always "crave" other men/women. For me, personally, when I fall in love with someone, I fall in love with the person. What bisexuality means to me is that I don't care what genitalia someone has, or what their legal gender is. The physical attributes I'm attracted to are interesting/brightly colored eyes and long-fingered hands. Which can belong to any gender.

Just to blow your mind a little more, I am also polyamorous. However, just because I can have romantic feelings for more than one person at a time doesn't mean I do by default. Of the five relationships I've had, four of them have been.. *gasp* monogamous. I didn't feel I was missing out on the gender I wasn't dating OR that I "craved" an open relationship. I was fine and happily monogamous. In fact, my longest relationship, which lasted 15 years? HE cheated on ME.

Sorry, I get a little passionate about this because I'm tired of being painted with this brush that's not my color at all.

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[personal profile] chardmonster 2015-04-07 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
At some level, bisexuals will crave the gender I'm not

The only person in the world who will ever date you and never crave another is your own hand, sadsack. The people you date will not stop having sex drives or senses that acknowledge human beings that are not you.

Straight people cheat. Gay people cheat. Every category cheats, you're a shitty jealous weirdo, these are all things we have to deal with and the only thing you can change is the latter.

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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-07 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
*rolls eyes* Oh please. My husband's bi and mostly attracted to women, but he chose ME to have a relationship with him. I'm not going to turn him into my self-hate puppet, and I'm not going to tell him what HE feels and HE wants. If he chose me, then I'm who he wants. End of story.

And I have never ONCE felt inadequate compared to the women he's been with. If he wanted to be with a woman, he wouldn't have dated me!

--Rogan

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
If you honestly think a partner who is only attracted to your gender won't ever be attracted to anyone but you, you are seriously deluding yourself.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Bi man *married* to gay man here. Fuck right off. Your insecurities are your problem.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-04-07 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
+ one million. Holy gods, can we not be 'more queer than thou'? Jayzus.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
This. Thanks.

(Bi person of the non-50/50 variant here who prefers "queer" and really has run into a bunch of the above. WTF is wrong with people?)
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2015-04-08 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Cred?