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talk about your encounters with the 1%

How much money qualifies people for 1%, again? I'm not sure if I have run into any

this one time i was waiting in line for the post office, and there was this lady in front of me who was clearly Rich (from her wardrobe, hairstyle, etc.)

and she kept tossing her head and huffing and glaring at the posties and getting all impatient

it was hilarious to watch. like she expected the line to disappear for her.

nope, you gotta wait five minutes like everyone else, lady.

I suspect most of fandomsecrets would call my family richies, though we're not 1%-ers. More like 5%-ers, or possibly 8%-ers.

It means my mom can have in-home carers and physical therapists, and a doctor who makes house calls; that she and my dad don't have to give up their house; and that she doesn't have to stay in the nursing home where she was so depressed she was practically starving herself to death. (And it was a nice nursing home, as such places go.)

I don't begrudge you any of that.

What I begrudge is that we live in a society where you need to be in the upmost of the upper crust to avoid that. I'm glad your mom and dad didn't have to give up their house, that your mom can have a good attentive standard of medical care, that she's in a place where she's loved. But it drives me furious that people who are poorer do have give up their houses, that they don't have access to a good attentive standard of medical care, that they're stuck in grim depressing nursing homes.

On top of that, in a scary number of care facilities, the people (mostly women) who do the bulk of the hard work of patient care are poorly paid and unfairly treated. It's horrible all around.

How much money is 5% or 8%? I cannot keep track of what amount of money qualifies as what percent and get confused whenever these topics come up. :(

What the anon above me said.

Honestly, most of the time when it comes to those issues it's not the people lucky enough to be able to afford that most people are upset with. It's that, for most of us, we live in a society where we would have to leave our parents in the nursing home, give up our home or who knows what else.

I think my family might be 1% but I'm honestly not sure.

I get the feeling that most people would think being in the bottom tier of the 1% is surprisingly underwhelming though. You have to be 0.01% to see the truly crazy things.

My experiences have largely been positive. They've been friendly and polite.

Now, don't get me started on the bourgeoisie...

My mother says the nice rich people are the ones whose families have been rich for generations. They think they're better than you, but they don't see that as your fault, so they're really polite about it. The self-made men and women are the ones who're really obnoxious, because they're insecure and need to keep "subtly" reminding you that they're better than you.

I find that to be true for the generational wealth people, aside from the occasional obnoxious bad apple. Even those tend to get smacked back into line when they go too far out because their money isn't their money, so to speak, and Daddy and Mommy can easily remind them of it.

Not all, but lots of self made people have this air of "if I can do it by getting exceptionally lucky or gaming the system, why can't you? Nobody works as hard as me" and it's way worse.

The brattiest rich kid I ever met had two parents who were away from home all the time. His parents would raise hell if they heard he got disciplined at school, but if they knew he was bullying other kids, they certainly didn't care. (In retrospect, I have no idea who raised him, and I've been told that multiple adults wondered that without an answer.)

That's more a failing of the parents than the child. Wealth doesn't have much to do with it. Any kid at any income level would act like that in that situation.

This. Neglect doesn't exactly do wonders for any child. Wealth probably gave him more of an entitled attitude than other children and made it easier for him to get out of trouble but, regardless of socioeconomic status, a lot of kids develop serious behavioral issues when their parents obviously don't truly give a shit about them.

I agree with that, but I don't think it's limited to self-made people. I think it's just a middle-class thing in general, even if they've been middle-class for generations.

The super rich are really insulated from us plebs; most of us in this thread have probably met one of the 1% a handful of times. They can afford to be gracious when they descend into our lives; they probably don't even recognize how broad the gap really is. They never have to look across it.

The middle-class though? They have to rub shoulders with us of the lower-class on a daily basis, so they have to constantly assert how their meager bit of chump change makes them superior.

That of course doesn't apply to the entire group; just the more obnoxious faction. The kind who think it's fine to threaten and cuss out cashiers (how DARE the lowly cashier waste their precious time and not have everything perfect for them?) blow stop signs (stop signs are for unimportant people, who don't have places to be) and talk about how they WOULD give money to that bum asking for a dollar, but he'd just use it to buy booze. Now let's spend $5 on a latte.

Yup. The super rich don't have anything to prove, they're already super rich. It can cut both ways: they can be obnoxious assholes because they don't have to care what people think, but they can also be the friendliest people because they have time and effort to spare and aren't afraid of being judged for who they associate with. When you have money, other people's opinions just matter less.

When people have something to prove, they tend to be super defensive at everything.

This is so true.

Yeah, this. I grew up upper middle class [and have since been in most of them ranging from homeless to middle]. Though, really, there's an obnoxious faction in every class I've found - and, sadly, the faction that'll cuss out cashiers, etc. also seems to exist in all of them. : /

I went to a school that was theoretically for "gifted" students, but had a lot of kids from wealthy backgrounds who seemed to be there because their parents supported the school. I only stayed until third grade, so I wasn't always sure who was rich, gifted, or both. I do know that some rich kids who were total shits could get away with anything short of physical violence against another student without being punished. (This eventually tore the school apart, because the school head refused to give recommendations to students he didn't feel earned it, and some influential donors got him sacked for not falling in line. All the good teachers quit rather than deal with the resultant screaming matches.)

my dad went to high school with someone who...well I don't want to get too specific, but he helped invent an important piece of communication technology

he lives in an enormous house with over a dozen bathrooms, two kitchens, a two-story slide made of mahogany, an elevator, a home theater, a bar, and a fuckton of other shit

and it's just bizarre, like, does one person (and his wife and kids, and a few dogs) need THAT much space and stuff? 20 families could live there comfortably, there's so much room.

I enjoy visiting but only because we go once a year to an annual party and I see people I don't see very often. The house itself is kind of a spectacle, and I try not to think too hard about it actually being a house.

No more or less intrinsically assholes than poor people, in my experience. I've found the most assholes around the lower middle class in fact.

I've met super nice rich people (like my boss) and I've met annoying rich people (like the woman who let us know she came from money the first time we met but she was totally not like those other snooty, rich women, except she totally was).

Just like I've met super nice poor people and annoying poor people.

My uncle is super rich. Like on the top richest people list in Forbes every year. And he is a total shit. I only saw him for "special occasions" like holidays and the wedding of one of his daughters (we weren't invited to his (second or third) weddings or to the wedding of his other daughter). And the one time he brought Christmas presents to our family Christmas gathering, it was obvious that his secretary had picked them out. He gave his mother a horrible gift. (Part of it was a Christmas ornament that had the year before's date on it.)

On the other hand, his oldest daughter, who is also one of the 1% obviously, is super nice. She is really clueless about everything that is in the lives of non 1%ers (doesn't everyone get to sail all the time all summer?) but she genuinely seems to care in a twisted sort of way.

While I would love to have money, and not have to scrape and scrounge to do anything, I am very very glad I am not more involved in my uncle's life or act like my uncle. No amount of money is worth that. And I guess that is why I will never be a 1%er.

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