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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-25 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3095 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3095 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
*clears throat* But What About The Kids

(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
TIL that some people think Peter Parker doesn't have a boring personality

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you honestly insinuating that Peter Parker isn't the most boring character in all existence

ahahahahahahahaha

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't find Miles to be boring TBH. I personally think he has an interesting story, is quite likable, and I think a lot of people can relate to the problems he has (outside of being Spider-Man), a lot like why Peter Parker is so popular.
The real dilemma is that we live in a more and more diverse society now (heard on NPR that about 40% of millenials are minorities, a larger percentage than any other generation before us), and the media is a way to reflect the way we live, because even though we like to say that Hollywood is not realistic (and it really isn't) we do want to find validity in the films/tv shows we watch on some levels. By choosing Miles to be MCU's new Spider-Man it would have included more young people to feel like they are included in the world than just always having to put up with the fact that we can imagine ourselves as Peter Parker, except we, the minorities who are superhero fans, still have to see a Caucasian man play the superhero.

I mean, I wouldn't say that I hate or dislike Tom Holland being the new Spider-Man or that we have another Peter Parker in the cinematic universe in less than 15 years, but I was very eager to see Miles Morales in the cinematic universe so it all became a little disappointing. That's how it is for me, anyway.

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I've got popcorn

[personal profile] iceyred 2015-06-25 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Let the wank flow strong, for I have come equipped with snacks.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care which one is more boring I just want them to stop with all the fucking reboots/recasts

(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't dislike Miles, and I don't think a hero with a "boring" personality is a great problem.

A good superhero character often (not always) works on the level of audience identification.

We identify with Kitty Pryde, or Jubilee, or Jaime from Blue Beetle, because we are or have been young people, even if we're not Jewish from Chicago, Chinese-looking American, or El Paso chicano. Some guys with glasses identify with Clark Kent for that reason. Short guys identify with Puck or Wolverine or something. Ancient Mediterranean history buffs identify with Carter Hall, and so forth. The character doesn't have to be super-complex, just someone we can sympathise with.

Peter Parker is a New Yorker. He's not from the idealised rural Midwest like Clark Kent, nor outer space, nor Paradise Island, nor "darkest Africa." That makes him identification material to a lot of people, especially those who live in NYC. You don't have to be white or from NYC to identify with him, of course. He has his family issues, his soap opera elements, his self-confidence problems.

But Peter Parker is from NYC of the 1960's. If Peter is relatively "boring," it's because there are so many white dudes, and even "white dudes from NYC of generations past" in superhero movies already. Miles gives a share of the audience something different. And that's "less boring" to them, even if Miles in the comics isn't as wildly popular as Petey was at his height of popularity.

I think a good script can make Miles not be boring. And a white dude named Peter Parker isn't automatically more interesting, and might just seem repetitive. So the anti-white-Peter crowd have a point.

Really, though, it's a shame we're not seeing a Luke Cage project developed. Yeah, they say they're going to do Black Panther, but I think Cage is a better character. :/

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Buh-buh-but representation!

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Ah this is a good secret.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck you, you piece of human filth.

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I don't want Miles

(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
because I want a non-black POC.

Black Panther's coming out.

And Sam Wilson, Rhodey, Nick Fury already have pretty prominent roles.

Can't we get some other race?

A Latino man? A Pacific Islander? An East Asian? A Middle-Easterner? An Indian? A Native American?

Please....

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-25 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay but Peter has already had FIVE MOVIES.
Like seriously just let him die and stop beating his dead decomposing corpse. Give some new characters a chance. More poc and female characters would be a step in the right direction.

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[personal profile] nightscale 2015-06-26 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I like Peter and Miles and I find them both interesting but ymmv on that as with anything, but it isn't 'Peter is white' that has me feeling a bit eh about MCU Spiderman it's that this is going to be his third reboot in 14 years and that's kind of too much Peter Parker, even for me.

Hence why I would have liked Miles(or even Gwen) to get a chance, it would have been something different and new.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-26 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe next movie Peter will sell his ethnicity to the devil instead of his marriage.

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All I want

(Anonymous) 2015-06-26 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
is a Spider-Girl movie. Too bad the chances of that happening is one in never.

Mayday Parker is best Parker.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-26 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Peter may not be boring by nature, but he is boring to me because I have seen his story so. many. times now.

A new character--ANY new character, even another white guy--would necessarily have a new origin story. Even if he was boring as shit, the presentation would make him interesting. That is why I'm personally yawning over yet another Peter Parker movie.

I've seen Peter Parker in five different movies now. Give me something fresh and different. Black Peter Parker would just be black Peter Parker, same tired, familiar storyline. I don't want to see more of Peter. I want to see someone new.

Wanting Cocoa Pebbles because I've been eating Corn Flakes for 15 years now does not mean Corn Flakes are bad. It means I'm tired of them.

*grabs popcorn*

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I don't know squat about Miles

(Anonymous) 2015-06-26 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
but I do know that people who champion Miles solely because he's black/blatino/not-white are just as bad as those who hate him because he's not-white. Champion characters because of who they are, not what they are. I want more diversity too but I'll take a bunch of really awesome white dude characters any day over multiracial multigendered bunch of perfect people without personalities. I've not seen anything with a MMBoPP* but that's because those types of things never sell, same with stuff that's full of perfect white dudes because perfect is boring.

*I still hate that song.
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(Anonymous) 2015-06-26 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
sooo... like every comic book main?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-26 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
If Caucasians are not special snowflakes then it stands to reason that neither are POC. #TheMoreYouKnow #AndShootingStar!

Because Peter Parker is such a fascinating individual???

(Anonymous) 2015-06-26 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Assuming Miles has personality equal to or greater than a bowl of oatmeal, I cannot agree...
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2015-06-27 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Couldn't they...write him so he was more interesting? And still black?

+1

(Anonymous) 2015-06-29 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so sick of SJW bullshit. Fuck all of you.
P.S: I'm a liberal.
P.S.S: Fuck you a second time.