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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-04 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #3104 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3104 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's a question for you: is the individual in your secret whining about their childhood being destroyed, or do they think that anyone who even knows about this ship will have their childhood nuked? ( I could understand the first opinion, but the second one would be totally nuts. )

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm op

it wasn't themself but they made remarks about how mentioning the ship to a family member was traumatizing and that it ruined that family member's childhood to find out that people shipped their favorite characters together

it's not children or anyone underage being shipped but two grown healthy adults btw

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Hang in there, OP, and don't let stuff get you down.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"Traumatizing." For fucking shit, people need to graduate to pull-ups and stop making trivial things out to be huge, life-shattering events.

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
People get way too offended over ships. I'm sure your childhood will survive if someone ships two characters from a show you liked as a child.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? Just today I was randomly wondering if people shipped characters from Rugrats. I looked for it and lo behold, they do. Childhood status: unruined.

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
My childhood remains uncrucified despite knowing that some people are shipping Bert and Ernie RIGHT NOW.

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elaminator: (Young Avengers: Kate/Eli)

[personal profile] elaminator 2015-07-04 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

Hell, I was shipping when I was a kid anyway. Didn't necessarily understand it at the time, but I'm sure if I went back and rewatched a lot of those older shows I would find plenty to ship.
nightscale: Starbolt (Marvel: Scarlet Witch)

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-07-04 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. I used to ship things when I was a kid before I realised what I was doing, and finding out that people ship things from my childhood that I didn't? Meh, doesn't phase me.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I remember when I was 13 and just discovered the internet not knowing anything of ships or porn featuring characters of my favorite shows/games and I stumbled on a lot of nsfw accidentally. Somehow I am still here today.

Of course that was before the words 'problematic' and 'triggered' were popular to throw around in fandom.

People need to not go on the internet if they are so delicate that the thought of people shipping two fictional characters is so mentally crushing.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Transformers by any chance?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
op

no

it's actually not stuff for kids

my ship is slash tho

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't leave us hanging OP. Which pairing are you talking about?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm undecided between Fred Flintstone/Barney Rubble and Tom&Jerry



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Misleading

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Based on what you wrote in the secret, I almost wanted to support you but in a comment above you added a context that changes everything:

"it wasn't themself but they made remarks about how mentioning the ship to a family member was traumatizing and that it ruined that family member's childhood"

Shit, they just described some other person's feelings then!
You are offended because a family member of someone in your fandom had a negative opinion about your ship, but it doesn't sound like the person that mentioned their family member's feelings was actually saying that your ship will ruin everyone's childhood.
If you don't mind me asking, did this person mention that after a fellow shipper in your corner of fandom told them that every fan aknoveledges your ship? I'm asking because you admit that some shippers in your group are awful which makes me a bit wary about the context here.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-04 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
come on op, your anonymous, spill the pairing! :c

(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Well if it's a small or obscure ship, then it might be easier to identify them.
Hell, I even get too paranoid to post secrets about my popular ship.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm.. childhood, and over a slash ship with two adult men...

I'm going to guess Star Wars. Han/Luke?

I mean especially over the recent wank that non-straight people even exist in-universe canon.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
People get so upset over ships it's ridiculous.
There are ships I simply cannot stand but unless someone directly asks me about it I'm not going to talk about it. And I'm certainly not going to go around preaching to others how it so traumatizing to me.

My current fandom doesn't even have anything you could call problematic because most of the characters are the same age range and it's a light-hearted series overall, and there are still people acting like shipping two characters is the most traumatizing thing in the world. Something about only seeing characters as queerplatonic and anything romantic is triggering. I don't even know.

Some guesses.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Since it isn't stuff for kids and it is adults being shipped,

Luke/Han?
Westley/Inigo or Inigo/Fezzik?
Marty/Doc?
Venkman/Spengler?
Face/Hannibal?
Rose/Blanche?
Kate/Allie?
Gopher/Isaac?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
How is 'ruining one's childhood' bigoted? *headtilt*

(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's the implication.

Like...if someone posted that their father said, upon hearing that people ship Bond and Eve Moneypenny in Skyfall that it was "traumatizing" or "destroyed" Bond for him, that would come across as pretty racist. Especially because the two actors have such great chemistry (think of the shaving scene alone, for example).

Or for James Bond/Silva, same deal -- saying it's "traumatizing" that people ship it has rather unfortunate homophobic/bigoted implications. I mean, they do tease at it in the film itself.

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't get that either. Either OP is holding out on pertinent information, or they're using the word wrong. Even odds for either scenario.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-05 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
DA
I think it's because the two things are unconnected? If you grew up liking the Smurfs and freakin' loving that cartoon and it was everything to you. And then as an adult you find out that someone else hated that cartoon...
Ok?
How does that have any impact on your childhood? You still have every single memory of loving the cartoon. Your childhood is intact. No one is insisting you have to support and take on their opinion as your own. "You hate it? I hate it now too!" but... how does it affect your childhood?

It's sort of implying that someone has such a strong overly emotional reaction to the very thought of someone else liking the idea of Brainy having a crush on Papa Smurf that they literally can't access or enjoy their childhood memories anymore. And that's really not a healthy response to finding out another fan had a different opinion of a show, and sort of indicates a phobia or obsession of some kind.

So that's why people jump to it must be homophobia, because that's not a normal response! A normal response is "Huh, I never saw it that way and doubt I ever will" and then on with your life.