[ SECRET POST #3125 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3125 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/5hBE1RN.png

[(Anonymous)]

The only people that thought that was racist were Americans. Actual Japanese people loved it and though Americans were, as usual, acting like they knew better than the actual cultures.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's not a good song, but from what I know it was directed by a Japanese director and targeted toward her Japanese fans, as she's a big deal in Japan. It wasn't even "for" her American audiences. It was pretty blatantly in the style of J-pop, very Kyary Pamu Pamu or however you spell her name. The "going to eat sushi all alone and squeeing over it" thing kind of made me cringe but the rest of the music video just seemed exactly the genre she was going for.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

HDU IMPLY NOT EVERYTHING IS MADE FOR MURICAN AUDIENCES

[(Anonymous)]

Implying that there are actual other countries with different cultural sensibilities, and not just (always pissy) minority populations in the USA who alone define what "Japanese," "Korean," and "African" mean: Officially Tunblr-racist since 2011.

[(Anonymous)]

B-b-but! As an american, I have the right to tell other countries what they should be offended about! HOW WILL THEY KNOW IF I DON'T TELL THEM>?!?!

[(Anonymous)]

but Avril Lavigne is Canadian, not Japanese

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yeah that was hilarious seeing the reactions of actual Japanese people.

Also I found it incredibly cringey to see American SJWs actually LECTURE Japanese people on why they should be offended.

Someone needs to tell the SJWs to stay in THEIR lane.

[(Anonymous)]

well, in fairness, Japanese people are mostly really racist, so they're probably not the best judges

[(Anonymous)]

DA

racist or no, I think the people of the original culture are the best judges for whether their culture is being appropriated or not

[ill_omened]

But anon, that's because Japanese are the majority on Japan, it's Japanese americans who are subject to the appropriation here, and the power structures involved mean that's not okay.

[(Anonymous)]

Well.....the song was made by an artist who visited Japan for her Japanese fans, and the video was directed by someone from Japan who was Japanese.

It would be like if some artist from another country visited America and had an American fanbase of say 12 or 13 year olds and wrote a song that references a lot of popular things in American pop culture and had an American director.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if you're being serious or not, but I think there's a huge difference between Avril making a j-pop style video, and Avril actually... being offensive. Like if the entirety of your complaint is "the video has things that are stereotypically Japanese" then, um, so what? Those things are not misleading, they actually are a part of Japan. Considering it was made by a Japanese director for a Japanese audience, Americans, of Japanese descent or not, need to seriously relax. It'd be one thing if she wore yellow face and enlarged her front teeth and pranced around, but the video is about Harajuku pop culture.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, good grief, I was joking (http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1253635.html?thread=851721731#cmt851721731) above, and then I see you actually went there.

[(Anonymous)]

i actually think it's still racist... just... not in the way everyone thinks it is.

[herpymcderp]

I find this interesting because Avril is purportedly bisexual. This is a friend of a friend story but one of my best friends in high school knew a girl from where she grew up that claimed to have dated her before she got famous.

Not sure how much water it holds but I always thought the story made her a little bit more interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

Not sure how much water it holds

pretty much zilch

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't be surprised. I mean the song in question is all about lesbianism, but I guess that could go either way (err, not like that) - either she's serious or she's playing queer for sexuality. Alternatively, since she didn't write the lyrics herself, maybe it's a moot point anyway.

[elaminator]

I didn't like the song or video, but you know...I think if it weren't for the weird gift boxes attached to her skirt she would look really cute here. (Hell, she kind of does anyway.) The rest of the outfit works for me.

Again, the song does not, but I didn't give it much thought. I'm sure there are worst things in the world than you liking a silly song.

Have fun with your lesbian fantasies, OP!

[(Anonymous)]

I second all of these sentiments

[caerbannog]

It's weird but catchy *bops along with you*

[(Anonymous)]

i'm a lesbian, but for some reason i never associated this song with lesbians even though it's really obvious now that i listen to it again.

i think i get where you're coming from, op. and now i'm full of shame too.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah she's not actually talking about Hello Kitty lol. It's about her trying to get a girl to have a "slumber party" with her and asking her not to go. Randomly interjected with phrases thanking her Japanese fans for being supportive, which is... kind of a non sequitur.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

hahaha yeah, i think i just didn't realize because at first i only listened to it when i heard about it being racist. now that i'm hearing the lyrics it's like "ohhhhhhhhhhhhh there's gay stuff here, right right right"

[(Anonymous)]

IDK what this is (aside from a music video, I guess) but I like how all the women in the background look like they really don't want to be there.