[ SECRET POST #3133 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3133 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Guild]


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03.
[Harvest Moon: (More) Friends of Mineral Town]


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04.
[Gump, from Legend]


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05.
(Agent Carter)


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06.
[Jeeves and Wooster]


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[Lupin III]


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08.
[Courtney Love & Kurt Cobain]


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(SPN)


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[Kasumi Goto, Mass Effect]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I hate the troops.

[(Anonymous)]

Okey dokey.

[(Anonymous)]

Why?

[(Anonymous)]

A bit more blunt than what I would say, but yes. In the early days of the war on terror and the blunder in Afghanistan and Iraq it was fine to say support the troops not the mission, but now everyone that joined the military pre-BushW has aged out of their enlistment terms, and is there because they are actively wanting to be a part of the current blunders. I can safely say that I now support neither the mission nor the troops.

The current cohort are there because they are fully onboard with the idea of covert torture, intentional collateral damage, and illegal engagements. That isn't something anyone should support, and anyone who signs up knowing that they are going to be doing that ought to be treated as being on the same level of criminal as the kiddy fiddlers and rapists.

[(Anonymous)]

"The current cohort are there because they are fully onboard with the idea of covert torture, intentional collateral damage, and illegal engagements."

You don't know anyone in the military, do you?

[(Anonymous)]

Actually yes, and frankly I am glad they are overseas. I feel sorry for the people around them, because the guys I know that joined up are horrible, horrible people, but I'd rather have them over there than over here.

They are certainly onboard with participating in giving the ragheads and the "ay-rabs" a good beating and they do not give a single shit about military ethics. They knew they were joining a military that killed innocents and civilians, and not only did they not care, they liked it. Support the troops? Why, they knowingly joined a military which has thrown away the rulebook. I support neither the mission, nor the troops that have knowingly signed up to perpetuate it. I don't see why I should either.

[(Anonymous)]

"The current cohort are there because they are fully onboard with the idea of covert torture, intentional collateral damage, and illegal engagements."

Or they were poor and this was the only way to get out of their situation and hopefully make a better life for themselves. Or something similar to that.

As the other anon says, just because some people in a field are assholes, it doesn't make all of them assholes. I'm not saying the troops need blind hero worship, but blind hatred isn't any better.

[(Anonymous)]

Being poor is no excuse. There are other ways out of poverty, and choosing to join a military that condones torture and may expect them to be complicit in that, or the deliberate targeted killings of innocents, or violating international law and borders of non-combatants and even allied nations is still wrong no matter how horrible the other choices are. Offers good bribes is no excuse for joining up. No excuses kids joining drug cartels and the mobs because they give them a route off the street too.

[(Anonymous)]

I just hate the expectation of hero worship

[(Anonymous)]

This sums up my feelings exactly.

[(Anonymous)]

the goof troops?

[dethtoll]

I like where this thread is going.

[(Anonymous)]

Trollville?

[(Anonymous)]

*tips fedora*

[(Anonymous)]

I like the troops but my only knowledge of the military is through the film "Stripes" starring Bill Murray

[feotakahari]

I don't have anything against older soldiers from Vietnam and such, but a lot of the folks who signed up voluntarily in recent years seem oddly arrogant. It's like they think not wanting to kill means you're so helpless you could never defend yourself against an attacker, and without the brave few who're okay with killing, everyone else would have long since been murdered. One soldier expressed this as "wolves, sheep, and sheepdogs." Personally, I think there are only wolves that have been tamed and sheep with horns.

[(Anonymous)]

You should see what happens when a sheep turns on a dog. It isn't a pretty end for the dog.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you also think that of the people who signed up for the military as medics or translators, or those who operate in the Pacific? Do you judge the translator working in South Korea the same as the soldier shooting A-rabs?

Everyone in this thread is acting like the ISIS thing is the only thing going on in the world right now.

[(Anonymous)]

They knew they were joining up to support those who were doing the abuse. There is a reason why accomplices are also charged with crimes. Just because they are not at the sharp end, does not mean their hands are clean in this. They could join civilian organizations with the same remit, but without a military interaction.

[feotakahari]

I've never had a discussion with someone who was a military medic or a translator. I did meet someone who disarmed bombs and was pretty nice, and I've read some nice writing by an extraction specialist.

[diet_poison]

lol I'm genuinely worried about someone from my quite conservative family (my mom's side of the family is basically all together in my aunt's house right now) seeing this comment over my shoulder

but uh, I dislike the military as an institution and disagree with the wars we've been in...but in a general sense, I support the troops themselves, as in, individual soldiers. some are more worthy of respect than others though.

[(Anonymous)]

I assume you come from a country which still has conscription so that people have to serve in that corrupt institution and not just those who sign up willingly and freely to be corrupt and prosecute bad wars? Supporting the troops themselves is excusable if they have no choice to be there, if they chose then they deserve the same amount of respect as the cause itself.

[diet_poison]

I guess it's a mix of 1. knowing people who are in the military (including family members and friends) who truly believe they are doing good, and thus are good people even if I disagree and 2. I think a lot of people who join are lower-income people and it's the best way for them to make money and especially to afford to go to school.

It's not that simple in the US. I think your stance is noble, but when it comes down to the individual level, and the way our country is structured so people can't go to school as easily and don't have the same number of options as they would in a more progressive country - it's no wonder people do it even if they don't really know what they're getting into. The military also does a loooooot of marketing.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate your troops too.

[(Anonymous)]

HI Bojack