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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-23 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3154 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
hoo boy

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It really looks like you've missed the point of the criticism.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2015-08-23 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of the criticism I've seen is spot-on and legitimate...buuuut there are a few people running around saying things like "the only white cis men at the protests were the police" or "white cis gay men have never really been oppressed!" Not enough facepalm in the world.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-08-23 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Every group has its cranks.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
"there are a few people running around saying things like "the only white cis men at the protests were the police" or "white cis gay men have never really been oppressed!""

Whaaaaaat.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm annoyed that people on Tumblr are misidentifying people. Several of the "transwomen" they are mentioning were actually drag queens. Drag queens are not trans.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't get on your high horse too quickly. Take it from someone who lived through those times, trans and drag were often used interchangeably since for most trans people actual transition and full time identification was not something that was in any way socially accepted. A lot of people who we would call trans today chose to use the drag label just to allow them some sort of self-expression. It was not a tightly defined term, nor a time period that leant itself to modern definitions.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
There's been a thing going around claiming a POC person is being played by a white male when two seconds on IMDb would show that allegation is false.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't there a comment on F!S in the last few days where someone was implicitly contrasting white to queer? That was weird.

Is this the new thing? "There is no WHITE in QWILTBEGH!"

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
White people on Tumblr are like the Slytherin. They are considered evil because they belong to that group and everyone is amazed when they do something good.

It is okay becuase two wrongs make a right or some shit.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That one guy looks exactly like a young David Bowie.

:D

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean the one who looks like Tilda Swinton?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking the same thing, anon! Hunky Dory era, with the long hair and the man dresses.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I wonder if gay rights have progressed so much because it is something white guys can be.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not an uncommon theory. Except usually people add that it's something that wealthy white guys can be.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
??

Sometimes I wonder if women's rights have progressed so much because a woman is something straight whites can be.

Sometimes I wonder if the Civil Rights Movement progressed so quickly because black is something straight guys can be.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Loving v. Virginia was 1967. Obergefell v. Hodges was literally - LITERALLY literally, not figuratively literally - two months ago. Sometimes I wonder if Oppression Olympics athletes are even qualified to compete.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
as a white gay I don't see what's wrong with your comment tbh, gays in a position of privilege have historically thrown "undesirable" members of the LGBT movement under the bus to appeal to mainstream acceptance. sad to say progress we've made is limited and for privileged folks.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Well why not? Normalizing queer is a process, whyever should it not start with the faces that society is going to be most sympathetic towards?

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2015-08-23 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen anyone say this...I'm not denying someone somewhere might have but it's not really the crux of the argument.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-08-23 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Well there's that.

I think it's going to suck because we're talking about the guy whose historical credentials included Anonymous. Oxford wrote Shakespeare because Hamlet was really about Oxford's incestuous relationship with his mother, Queen Elizabeth.
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[personal profile] bio_obscura 2015-08-24 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
What are you talking about?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Some of the criticism may be legitimate, but the SJW mentality is that there are already too many white gay characters in media, or that white gays have it easy. That is offensive and bullshit. We absolutely need more trans and non-white queer representation, but that does not mean somehow we've coming close to reaching the white gay quota.

Also, I'll probably go see this movie. Because I thought we banned things for being flat out racist/sexist/homophobic etc, not because they simply didn't represent well enough.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not happy with the movie and won't pay for it because the criticisms are legitimate, but the other day I saw a popular tweet that said "sure there were white cis men at Stonewall - the POLICE" and that's plain disgusting and horrible.