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⌈ Secret Post #3238 ⌋

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Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

What are some verifiably untrue things that frequently pop up in your fandoms?

My example in the next reply.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

For example, in Kingsman fandom, Merlin is often drawn or written as having blue eyes. Merlin is played by Mark Strong, and Mark Strong's eyes are a very noticeable, very vivid hazel green (http://www.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/MarkStrong03.jpg). Here's another (http://kpitalrisk.free.fr/images/stars/23000/s_23953mark_strong_at_event_of_green_lantern.jpg), blow it up to see unequivocally hazel green eyes. NOT BLUE.

WhyTF fans think his eyes are blue is beyond me, and I want to send curt comments to all fan artists and authors who get this wrong, but then I remember I'm polite and this is silly.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

The eyes are usually a common point of confusion.

I've been reading a lot of HP fic lately and Sirius' eyes are occasionally gray, sometimes brown, other times blue. I don't recall what the books say, the wiki says gray, and Gary Oldman's eyes are...? OR is the fic writer using their own fancast? I don't even know, but it bothers me alot. Especially when it's blue. I know his eyes weren't blue.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

(I haven't seen "Kingsmen" yet, but I remember Mark Strong's character's eye color being somewhat of a plot point in "Sherlock Holmes" (2009), so the thought of someone mistaking them for blue is a tad startling to me.)

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT -- Ooh, I've never seen that movie, in what way do his eyes come into play?

PS. I LOVE Mark Strong's eyes, which is why this whole thing is such an issue for me. :)

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

I looked at the linked images. I agree, that's a good eye colour, whateer you call it. Then again, I am very biased toward hazel eyes.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Slightly random but related - in the tiny Blackwood/Coward fandom, there was an ongoing debate over whether Hans' eyes were blue or green that was never really resolved. But I don't think anyone ever mistook Mark's eye color. It's very distinctive!

I will never stop complaining about this

[feotakahari]

Every time we see Garnet in Steven Universe, her hair is squared off and orderly, albeit huge. Rebecca Sugar's art of her gives her hair a little more shape, but it's still nothing like the bird's nest that shows up in fanart. Honestly, I suspect this ties in to people reading Garnet as "black"--they draw her with the same hairstyle they always give black characters.

Re: I will never stop complaining about this

[(Anonymous)]

The character designs in SU are all really stylized and cartoony, though. Garnet's hair is a stylized, cartoony afro, so when drawing her in a more realistic style it makes sense to give her a more realistic looking afro.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[fishnchips]

I remember one from waaay back. Weiß Kreuz was one of my first fandoms and Ken had different eye colours depending on adaption/artwork but it was always either blue or green. Never brown. But he constantly got ~chocolate brown orbs~ or something in fanfic. It was very annoying! (Fanon also had him as a massively clumsy idiot all the time and ... yeah, a character can only be so clumsy if he used to be a successful professional football goalie. Yes, I'm still bitter about all sorts of terrible Ken fanons after all these years.)

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[iceyred]

Oh yeah, I remember that. WK had a lot of conflicting artwork/anime out there. Part of its charm.

I think a lot of the clumsiness came about because he wasn't the best developed character otherwise and fandom had to give him SOMETHING to do. Which was apparently pratfalls.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[fishnchips]

Heh... there probably wasn't a single character on that show that I would consider "well developed" but the trashy-ness of it all was also part of it's charm, I guess. But you're right in the original series, he was generally not the brightest crayon in the box and he was an athlete, so people probably extended those traits to a general "dumb klutzy jock" thing.

(Although Ken got... interesting in Glühen. Yay, killing sprees are fun!)

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Did you ever read any of Laila's Ken-centric fics on FFN? (I think she goes by Sevendials now.) I wondered because she used to be nettled by some of the same terrible Ken fanon you dislike.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[fishnchips]

I just looked them up - she wrote a lot of Ken/Yohji which wasn't my pairing, bit I am very sure I read her gen stories and I liked them quite a lot!

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it happens as much as it used to, but every Pokemon fan used to call James's hair blue. I think he was one of the first characters to be described with the infamous "bluenette" epithet. Except, his hair is clearly purple.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm, I had to look at a couple of screen shots. I think in comparison to Jesse's hair, his hair looks really blue. In some screenshots I can see it's at least a shade of blue. But others it's obviously a lot more purple. Idk, still, it's a purple-blue color.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[sachiko_san]

Well, now his hair is purple. It was more of a blue color before the art style change. And Jessie's used to be red, now it's magenta.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[philstar22]

There are surprisingly few in my fandom, mostly because there is so much room for interpretation and filling in the blanks. Not all of the characters even have physical descriptions in the books. For example, we know Sauron was attractive but we don't know what hair or eye color. The assumption tends to be mostly red or blonde hair and flamey eyes, but there is no real canon that says one way or another.

One thing, interestingly, is that everyone assumes Legolas is blonde in the books. But there is nothing that actually says that and one sentence that may mean he actually had dark hair. Thranduil is mentioned as blonde, but we don't really know about Legolas.

There are some Boromir characterizations that I think are verifiably untrue.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

People in Japan celebrate 4th of July.

/every anime fandom

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god agreed with that issue. Couldn't they have done the research and saved it for a Summer festival (very common in Japan and a lot of them have fireworks) or Tanabata (less common to have fireworks but at least it's in July.)

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

That a panic attack is similar to a heart attack and you can die from one.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

I'm glad someone brings this out. While they can have similar symptoms overlapping, they're vastly different. Yes, both have shortness of breath, palpitations (albeit panic attacks have the palpitations as the heart speeding up and the heart attack has it as feeling an abnormal heart rhythm), chest pain, dizziness, sweating, and nausea/vomiting as symptoms in common. But the heart attack has further pain in areas with major blood vessels like the neck and the shoulder on the same side as the heart.

And really, a panic attack is only deadly if during a panic attack someone self-harms and takes it too far. Otherwise it's more psychologically damaging than physiological.

This coming from someone who's studied and done her research.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

They're not similar anatomy wise, but we had to call a code blue on a co-worker who had a panic attack and passed out/stopped breathing.

I'm sure it's pretty damn rare, but to say it's impossible for them to be fatal isn't true.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

It's not exactly fandom, but it always bugs me when Western-themed stuff like historical romance has a stereotyped portrayal of Mexico: all Mexicans are dark-skinned, the language they speak is called Mexican, etc. It's a big and diverse country.

Re: Factual mistakes made often in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Well, technically is fandom related since there's a fandom for those things.

But THANK YOU. THANK YOU. There's plenty of fair-skinned, fair-haired folks (usually of Spanish descent) in addition to the darker-skinned, darker-haired ones. <3 And the diverse languages and cultures even within Mexico. Including remnants of mostly-scattered tribal societies and their native tongues and dance language and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!