[ SECRET POST #3245 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3245 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I can't stand these movies, because it totally breaks my suspension of disbelief: how in the hell do you forget one of your own kids when it comes to travel?

Not to mention in this day and age, it could simply be solved as getting an ADT security system, and Kevin gets a Lyft/Uber drive to the airport with his smartphone. Problem solved.

[kaijinscendre]

1) People (often tragically) forget children in cars around 30 times a year.
2) It doesn't take place in this day and age so that point is moot.

[(Anonymous)]

They don't forget him as such. One is the mums does a head count in the car, and their (also blond) neighbour kid is sitting in their car with his back to her, so she assumes it's Kevin (because when they're rushing off on holiday, why would a neighbours kid be in their car?) and it's on,y at th airport they realise the neighbour kid isn't/wasn't kevin and neither he or kevin is there. Plus they all overslept, and Kevin was sleeping alone in the attic, so when one adult says 'oh, yeah, Kevin is already in the car', the other adults arent going to know any different or are going to bother to go all the way to the attic to check when they've a million other things to do, and they've just been told gets in the car.

[tabaqui]

And that still makes no sense, because when you get to the airport, you call the cops/neighbor/whoever and have them get the kid/you go back home.

You *talk to your family* on the drive to the airport, you *look at your kids* while you're rushing around getting ready and who doesn't go up to check on a pre-teen kid before a long trip, to make sure they've packed/dressed/gotten up/eaten?

Just so fucking stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

He was supposed to be in the van with the other kids. The van that wasn't being driven by his parents.

Also, they overslept, were in a rush, and there were something like 15 other people to account for.

...but wait, why am I talking about this with you? You don't like things unless they're 100% perfectly realistic.

[tabaqui]

*rolls eyes*

Why are you? Please, go argue with everyone else who thinks it's stupid and unrealistic, just like me.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh people have been? But you're a special case. It's like you don't know what "fantasy" means.

[tabaqui]

And it's like *you* don't know what 'personal preference' means. Meaning - i hate unrealistic, stupid shite that writers use to 'make plot happen' when they could use their brains and think of something intelligent and interesting and *more real*.

Jayzus. Please, like what you like and talk about it all you want. I'll like what *i* like and do the same. It's kinda the damn *point* of this whole comm.

[(Anonymous)]

Like I said, he's in the attic, out of the way, and one of the adults says he's already dressed, ready and in the car. So why go up to the attic to check on a child who is already in the car? And since they were going in multiple cars, it's easy enough to assume that kevin us just in the other car. Stupid all around on behahlf of the adults, yes, but at least they tried to come up with a reason for it and show it, rather than starting the movie with Kevin waking up and being all, hey, they've all left me!

There was a big fuss over here a few years ago when the Prime Minister and his family went to a pub for lunch and ended up leaving their daughter at the pub, and were home/nearly home when they realise and had to turn back. And this in a modern day world with mobile phones and such.

[(Anonymous)]

It's almost like Home Alone is an exaggerated movie where small feasible things are taken and stretched for the sake of comedy!

[(Anonymous)]

NO WAI

YOU ARE MADE OF THE KIDDING

[(Anonymous)]

DIDNT YOU KNOW?! ALL COMEDIES ARE SERIOUS AND ONLY PORTRAY REALISTIC SITUATIONS BUT ONLY REALISTIC SITUATIONS THAT TABAQUI APROVES AS REALISTIC, ANYTHING ELSE IS STUPID.

THEY NEVER TAKE A COMMON PROBLEM AND FEAR OF PARENTS OR CHILDREN, TWEAK THE SCENARIO THEN RUN WITH IT!

WHAT MOVIE WOULD DO THAT?!

[(Anonymous)]

It's not that unrealistic tbh. My family is only of five people and they forget things (and yes that does include kids sometimes) all the time, espcially in a rush.
In Home Alone's case, the family was literally like 18+ people and they were all in an extreme hurry to get to the airport, and most of the little kids were in the back of a van where the parents couldn't see or talk to them easily. It's not thaaaat big of a strech.

I don't wanna sound mean or anything, but this really isn't that big of a plot hole as you're making it out to be imo.

[tabaqui]

To me - my opinion here - the irritation i feel at what seems a completely ridiculous and fixable situation makes the move unfun. (Well, that and the over-the-top violence.)

I just wish writers would find intelligent, interesting and *plausible* ways to make a plot point happen. Like slasher/horror movies, when people do incredibly stupid things and die. Or hell, Walking Dead!!

Why can't they find ways for the plot to move forward in *smart* ways, instead of dumbing down characters and making hand-wavey things happen to do that, instead? I think it would make for much more interesting stories all together.

And, to placate whatever anon is so exercised - I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS STUPID FOR WATCHING OR ENJOYING HOME FUCKING ALONE. I just personally think the movies are stupid and a bit gross and like other anon said, kid-slasher movies, and i do *not* like them.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the problem is that you keep doing things like implying that the way the plot works is unintelligent, and saying that it's the result of writers being unwilling to use their brains, and not being smart, and calling them stupid. When you're using language like that, it's hard not to read it as a value judgment. And if it's a value judgment, it's hard not to take that and extend it to the viewers who enjoy it and don't agree that its stupid.

[kaijinscendre]

I think you give more credit to the human race than you should. Humans can be very stupid. And when they are panicked or overly stressed, even more so. Most people in a zombie apocalypse are not going to die because of some smart way. They are going to die because they tripped while running, or ran out of food, or trapped themselves in a building.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah but just because you don't like or enjoy them, does not make the writers work stupid or unintelligent or any more of the words you've been throwing about. Ppl are irritated because you're being judgemental and elitist because you don't enjoy a genre.

Fine, it doesn't appeal to you. You don't get that kind of material and it's fine you don't understand that. But shitting on it as unintelligent and shitty because YOU find it unfunny isn't the right way to express you distaste.

Get over it

[kaijinscendre]

They tried calling the cops. The whole movie is about a series of mistakes that let him roam free and without parents.

[(Anonymous)]

"how in the hell do you forget one of your own kids when it comes to travel?"

People forget their kids places all the time. Kids DIE because their parents forget them in the car and leave them there all day.

"Not to mention in this day and age, it could simply be solved as getting an ADT security system, and Kevin gets a Lyft/Uber drive to the airport with his smartphone."

It was 1991. Are you seriously unable to suspend your disbelief because a movie made in 1991 doesn't have the things that are available in 2015? When you watch movies from the '80s, do you balk at people playing records and using landline phones?

[(Anonymous)]

I would believe that doing a "Home Alone" on 2015 wouldn't sound plausible for the smartphones and social media. But comparing it to a movie done on the '90s? No sense.

[(Anonymous)]

My mom told a story once about how, when I was a baby, she was standing in my grandma's driveway packing up the car before we left for home. She set the little bassinet-style thing I was sitting in down for a moment, finished packing, she and my dad got in the car...

...and drove off, with me still sitting quietly in my little bassinet in my grandma's driveway. Fortunately, they realized it fairly quickly and returned, and my grandma was there and I was totally fine. But yeah, that sort of thing can happen quite often.

Anywho, as for these movies, I only ever saw the first one, and I haven't seen it since I was a little kid. I recall liking the movie, but mostly I mainly remember seeing it in the theater with other kids in a daycare group, and crying at the ending, and wanting my mom when I got back.

[sachiko_san]

Um, my brother had a teacher who would take me and my brothers, his kids, and a couple of other kids on trips a few times one summer and we went to Big Bear Lake in California and I went to the bathroom right before we left, I even said I was going, and I when I came out, they were gone. I was like 9 or 10 and if one of the other kids hadn't said something, I would have been left there. So yes, sometimes it's possible to forget a kid because people aren't perfect and things can slip your mind.

[hwc]

A marching band from a neighbouring town once forgot one their own at a motorway rest stop on their drive home from a competition. Luckily the band from another neighbouring town coming from the same competition stopped a little later at the same rest stop (we all tend to stop at the same places, we often run into each other on our way home) and picked the girl up.

And then of course there was David Cameron, who famously forgot his daughter in a pub. So yes, these things can happen.

[otakugal15]

My 8th grade year, we had a trip to DC. I was in a group, with one teacher, who wanted to see the Holocaust Museum.

We got there, etc, but half way through, we were called and told to hurry to the front, cause we needed to get to the American History Museum by 4 pm. So, we went through really quick and got to the lobby.

And waited. And waited.

There were 6 of us.

The teacher never showed because she and the rest of the group had already left on the bus.

So, six 13-15 year old students had to navigate our way around The Smithsonian's general area to find the AHM, by ourselves, with no map and no smartphones, since this was before the rise of Smartphones (2002).

Shit like that happens. No biggie. Our situation turned out fine, we got there ok, and yay. We went on our way.

[(Anonymous)]

On the "sociopath Kevin" analysis that kallanda_lee posted, some commented that one of the reasons they may not have noticed Kevin's absence was that his ticket was unintentionally thrown in the trash during the pizza thing. With that many people, they were probably relying more on numbers than names.