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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-23 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #3276 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3276 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I cannot wrap my head around anybody saying this. It is possibly one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard a fair number of people say things like this. Other claims to why fanfic is 100% superior to any other form of media are:
- fanfic is better written
- fanfic has more creative plotlines
- fanfic is more diverse and deals with complex issues

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's also free.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
That's stupid. There's tons of free media nowadays, even if you don't want to pirate.
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[personal profile] 51stcenturyfox 2015-12-24 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
So's the library.

I mean, I love fanfiction, but cost is no barrier to reading actual books.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Bed bugs.

They love to hide in book spines, and libraries are a great way to get them.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I take out probably 150+ a year from the library, never got bedbugs, even from the branch that was reported to have them.

But if you're still nervous, libraries lend ebooks too.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I read more fic than I do real books just because it's easier for me to find/search for. I can just pick a show/pairing I already like & sort through the stuff that sounds good, and I'm perfectly satisfied.

But for actual novels, well. There's so much to choose from, I have no idea where to start or what to look for? I'm completely lost. I mostly just end up reading things associated with movies/games I already like, tbh.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-12-24 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
If you really want some new stuff, there are lots of ways you can find things.
Ask for recs from friends, or even here - if you give a few examples of stuff you like, people can sometimes find you great stuff :) I've gotten some really good recs that way.
There are also lists published by various sites, like Buzzfeed and on Amazon and such, like "best 20 fantasy books published this year" and whatnot. You can scan through those, and see if anything attracts your attention.

Also, if you go on Amazon and other book sites, if you search for a specific book sometimes it'll give you "customers who bought this also bought" or list similar books. You can start from something you like, and then branch out from there.
Even in libraries, sometimes it's worth just browsing around and pulling something off the shelf because the title catches your eye, or the cover looks interesting, or maybe because you've heard of the author.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
- Get recommendations from people who you trust have similar taste to you.

- Spend hours browsing a library or bookstore.

- Join online book discussions on websites like Goodreads.

- Using "suggester" websites, where if you type in a book that you like, it gives you suggestions for other things that you might like.

It may seem overwhelming at first, but once you figure out what your taste is and what authors you like, it's much easier to whittle things down.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
+2

8pm at night and I want to read something now. The library isn't really an option and I don't want to spend my night browsing for new titles.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Not everyone has access to a library.

It's actually a problem right now, the fact that libraries are closing down and the people most in need of them can't get to them.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
That may be true in some areas, but libraries often now offer eBooks.

Plus, there are thousands of free eBooks available online with simple Google searches with no need for a library at all.

Thrift stores are chock-full of cheap books, too.

It's totally cool if someone prefers to read fanfic; sometimes I do! I just don't think books are generally difficult to come by. At the same time, there was no internet when I was a teenager. We had to go to a bit of effort to find reading materials, and I'd often come home from the library with 12 books and decide four of them were terrible after reading a few pages.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2015-12-24 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
God knows the library is too expensive, right?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, sure want to risk getting bed bugs that love to live in book spines!

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I wish I could go to the library every day but I'm in the middle of nowhere and usually have no transportation. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Not everyone has access to a library. Libraries are currently on the decline, because people don't want to spend the tax dollars to keep them open.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
There's a lot of free original fic on the internet too but personally I don't care if someone only reads fanfic. Reading is supposed to be fun.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
If a person is reading a lot of dumb, bandwagon type YA books, those are not entirely unfair criticisms. But to literally be afraid to try new books? That it's a risk? I completely agree with the secret that says that anybody who says something like this is literally the worst embodiment of the younger generation.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Have literally never seen anyone say this. OP is reading far too much into ppls fiction preferences

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
- fanfic is more diverse and deals with complex issues

There's...there's literally centuries' worth of books, stories, and other written media created by minority writers. Dealing with minority issues.

What.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - Maybe they're assuming what they read in English class = all literature ever written?

Although even English classes tended to offer diversity. Not always nearly enough, but nonetheless.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - Maybe they're assuming what they read in English class = all literature ever written?

If that's what they think that says more about them than it does about the state of minority fiction (obvisoy it's far from great but it's not like it's completely impossible to find minority rights especially in the age of Google and the Internet)

I mean call me snooty but I feel like reading and buying original fiction and non-fiction created from the ground up by minority writers to explicitly explore minority issues is much better way to support diversity and expand one's views and understanding than reading fiction created with existing characters and plot lines shoehorned into stories in ways that aren't always workable. Or something like that I'm having a hard time articulating why I have such a problem with the idea.

Obviously there's room for reading both, and I don't want to deny that reading and writing fanfiction is a great way for people to explore minority issues, in particular their own sense of self with regard to race, gender, sexuality, disability etc. But uniformly dismissing literature like that displays imho a really disquieting ignorance of the incredibly important legacy and work of minority writers throughout the ages - writers who are already given the shaft by more mainstream audiences and academics.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
It's indicative of a larger problem, the extreme risk aversion being demonstrated across college campuses and on youth oriented websites. Bunch of fraidy cats coming up the ranks.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, but it's a pretty common reasoning when people are arguing over why fanfic is better than published fiction.